Dodge 8 Litre V10 in a MINI morris cooper.

[blitz200sx]

Does anyone know anything about converting a Mini with a engine swap from a Dodge Viper,

I want my Mini to have more balls and sound mean without going overboard, thats why i came up with the idea of dumping in the 8 litre Dodge V10 Pushrod engine.

:D

[LJ38L]

it's pretty similar to mounting an RB30ET onto a pushbike:rolleyes:

[T]

other than the fact that the motor will cost you $30k (there is one for sale in nsw) the length of the thing MIGHT be a problem!

T

[hamish]

Use the panel van, it's got a longer wheelbase.:)

[Norbie]

Maybe if you mount if on the roof... and don't connect it to the wheels, bolt a big prop to the end of the crankshaft. No traction problems that way!

[Cruiser]

Engie bay in the Leyland Minis (clubman style) is about 5 cm longer than the Morris round nose. Try it in a Clubman Mini. Too much hassle with the round nose.

[hamish]

Don't forget to put the Cooper S discs on the front, the std drums have trouble coping with a fully worked 998, so an 8 litre V10 might be a bit too much for them, the drums that is, cooper S discs will pull it up no worries. Just make sure you put a proportioning valve in (try an HQ one) to match the drums on the 9" you're going to fit up back, which is where you can put the commodore radiator in place of the back doors of the van, a big thermo fan should keep it cool. I'm not sure what the best tyres for 10" rims are these days, you'll have to work that out for yourself.

:)

[sssgtr]

Originally posted by LJ38L
it's pretty similar to mounting an RB30ET onto a pushbike:rolleyes:
ROFL!!!! :D

[Cruiser]

hamish - Minis are front wheel drive. I seriously wouldn't bother changing to rear wheel drive. Besides, don't Castlemaine Rod Shop do a conversion kit for this engine onto a Mini gearbox?

[blitz200sx]

Yeah i might need to get wider racing slicks onto the mini's 10" rims so i can put the whole 500hp down without going sideways too much hehehe;)

[Zac]

my cousin's dad's brother's son did this mod.
he just used hyundai excel engine mounts and fitted a traumatic 3 speed box cos he never learnt to drive manual.

[Billzilla]

Nah, that engine alone is just far too wussy to even consider.
It brings visions of pink-clad mechanics dancing around the car squealing & hugging and generally doing pretty gay shit.

You need to add at least four turbo's, two superchargers, nitrous, and whatever the hell the word is for something bigger than a monster tacho.
You'll also need a Type-R trailor to carry the fuel tank around in.

[Nismo_Boy]

Originally posted by Bill Sherwood
Nah, that engine alone is just far too wussy to even consider.
It brings visions of pink-clad mechanics dancing around the car squealing & hugging and generally doing pretty gay shit.

You need to add at least four turbo's, two superchargers, nitrous, and whatever the hell the word is for something bigger than a monster tacho.
You'll also need a Type-R trailor to carry the fuel tank around in.

BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.....

[maz]

The latest (or a couple of issues ago) Mopar Performance magazine has one of these motors stuffed into a Charger, and that's a tight squeeze!!! Think ya might have some probs with this conversion, but hey anything's possible if you have more money than sence!.

[Sturmovik]

What about a PT Cruiser? Its been done....:D:D

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/01images/01sema/chryslersema02-1-1.jpg

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/01images/01sema/chryslersema02-2-1.jpg

[Supercrown]

I think the main problem everyone seems to be forgetting is that the mini was only a carbied vehicle, and that the viper motor is efi. This means that you'd have to fit a reurn line to the fuel tank (the supply line should be okay-minis had a fair bit of stick),and that'd probably need to be engineered. I had this problem when I swapped the Merlin motor (retro-fitted with an injection perfection kit and microtech ecu) into my mates Civic.

As a fix to the problem of the motor intruding into the cabin, we have built a replica roman chriot, and ride around in that behind the civic. We control the car with a gibbon that has been trained to respond to series of voice commands, who sits in the glovebox operating a series of levers and bellcranks. It's a surprisingly reliable system.

Take care
sean

[gianttomato]

Merlin into Mini has actually been done - 'midmount' too.

[Pete]

Yeah,
Eight litres and an V10...no point in OVER doing it is there?

[hamish]

Bill, the superchargers might cause some hassles with rego, problems with seeing over them and all, so I'd add a couple more turbos instead.
Cruiser, forgot about that kit from the rod shop, how about using the 9" (all good cars use a 9") and making it 4wd.
Microtech ecu? I dont think you need to use something that high tech on it, after all it's not an F1 car we're talking about here, just a reliable everyday cruiser, so theres no need to get carried away with technology.

[Billzilla]

I thought perhaps about thirty or forty 2" SU's would do the trick nicely.
But that'd be silly - You'd never be able to push the throttle down against all that resistance, so you'd also need a vacuum booster for the throttle pedal.
Just oozes cool this car, eh?

[hamish]

Bill, good idea using SU's, keeps the car a bit more authentic.

[karl_2ltGC]

Originally posted by Bill Sherwood
I thought perhaps about thirty or forty 2" SU's would do the trick nicely.
But that'd be silly - You'd never be able to push the throttle down against all that resistance, so you'd also need a vacuum booster for the throttle pedal.
Just oozes cool this car, eh?

Who said you needed to use the throttle....about 1000rpm idle should be a good balance between wheelspin and the car falling over ;)

[LJ03L]

The poms have put a small ford V8 in a fibreglass mini, It was midmount, and could give most things a good run for there money.

[blitz200sx]

"Yeah well maybe it's not a good idea,


how about i get my old mans engine from the lawn mower and turbo that, chuck a 880cc injector on it, custom plenum, etc and c what happens hehehe

[sssgtr]

Originally posted by blitz200sx
"Yeah well maybe it's not a good idea,


how about i get my old mans engine from the lawn mower and turbo that, chuck a 880cc injector on it, custom plenum, etc and c what happens hehehe
Don't steal my ideas butt monkey!!!!:D :p :D

[QIK180]

Panelvan transaxle with suicide doors:D

[RX808]

i think i have still got an old street machine edition with a mini thats got a 302 rwd setup.

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by RX808
i think i have still got an old street machine edition with a mini thats got a 302 rwd setup.

There was V8 Mini at the Summernats, can't recall what sort of V8 though, could of been the one RX808 is talking about. There was also a RWD Mini Moke with a big block Chev in it a couple of years ago at the Summernats as well.

RB30 in a pushie would be an interesting conversion though...
*Falchoon gets out phone book to look up number for Bikes 'R Us*

[hamish]

How about putting a worked 1275 with twin SU's into a viper.

[jampac]

An 8L engine into a mini would have the dynamics of portaloo down the quarter. Just doesn' t have the wheel base for the power.

[blitz200sx]

Nah but it would be funny to see it trying to go down the quater without spinning out or hitting a pole

[blitz200sx]

Yeah but it would be funny just watching it loose it down the strip

[m1k3yz]

i wonder if the dimensions of the v10 dodge motor is similar to the dimensions of the cooper mini.... =] LOL

[gtst4]

You probably want to be careful not to give it too much throttle, or the engine might just inhale the rest of the car.:D

[blitz200sx]

maybe,

[blitz200sx]

Not if you have a Mini custom Rollcage,
the engine is Big, you would find that moving the drivers seat to the boot is essential to be able to move your legs when shifting hehe

[RX22NV]

Has no one thought of cooling? I thouroughly recommend the usage of a VW beetle radiator and also the fitment of the VW water pump also.

[C0V3R]

Originally posted by Falchoon


There was V8 Mini at the Summernats, can't recall what sort of V8 though, could of been the one RX808 is talking about. There was also a RWD Mini Moke with a big block Chev in it a couple of years ago at the Summernats as well.

RB30 in a pushie would be an interesting conversion though...
*Falchoon gets out phone book to look up number for Bikes 'R Us*

It was a 351 IIRC.

[blitz200sx]

Yeah we will need a huge custom front mount Radiator

[blitz200sx]

Then we will crank a nice vielside bodykit for the mini hehe, how would that look.

[krawler]

The Mini in the old streetmachines mags is powered by a 302W in a mini panel van. converted to rwd and running a ford 9".

[blitz200sx]

no shit, dayehmn

[crx2gen]

just another point - how on earth do you plan to insure this...i mean feel free to purchase a $30000 engine and drop it in the mini, but if you could find someone to insure that, they would probably give life insurance to osama bin laden :p

[OPR072]

have you seen what this clowns done?

http://www.geocities.com/jharkola/Viku2.html for more info.


Edit, cause my damn pics i posted are being a beeatch and not working.

[Aaron]

Out of interest for US$12K you can have the current spec Viper motor in a crate complete with all ancillaries and ECU. Plug and play. I belive it even comes with a 248 page fitting guide! I sh!t you not!

*laughs* Always got a kick outa the ads in the Mopar mags for them... Brand new Mopar Performance Parts ;)

[blitz200sx]

Noooo shit, i didnt even think you could actually stick a v8 in a mini let alone a v10

ho-ho-holy shit haha!

[Pete]

Do you put the engine IN the car...or build the car around the engine?

Might want to add a tow bar and trailer as well to carry all the engineering certificates and reports:

"Ahhhh, Let me just check that Constable, Lets see here...
Volume 12, Section 14, Subsection 6, Appendix J..."

And another trailer to carry the fuel!

[TX3XTC]

Look guys..for a project of this size I think the engine you are going for is to small! Personnally I would reccomend the 13.5 litre motor from the famous Pierce-Arrow 6-66 Raceabout (made from 1912-1918) (largest engine capacity of any road car produced)Now that would get your mini pumping down the quarter mile in ohhh ummm in high 1s?:D

[2invl]

I wouldn't worry about traction or spinnin out down the quarter, all u have to doo is fit a dodgem car rubber bumper all the way round and a rolling stunt car cage!
Should do the trick:D




Good luck, and make sure u post the results:D :D :D :rolleyes:

[edo]

Ok I think I can wierd things up a bit here.
I reckon that the V10 with its trans will be about as long as a mini so youre going to have trouble if you want it to drive a diff to the rear wheels (because the gearbox output shaft will be behind the diff). Sooo what you need to do is run a V Drive out of a boat from the gearbox to the diff. Of course this would result in the car only having one forwards gear & 6 reverse which is plain silly:) So you will really need to keep it front wheel drive with the engine out the back, the trans running backwards up the fabricated trans tunnel running to the V Drive to the diff.

Its almost too easy....:D

[Cruiser]

Gearbox? Edo, you're complicating things.

Stick a seat on one of the rocker covers, a wheel hub and wheel on some extension of the crankshaft, and there you go... a single speed V10 unicycle. May need to balance it via the use of a trapeze - 18 foot skiff racing style.

[blitz200sx]

hmm, all interesting idea's
i'm sure we can extend the mini's body around the problem,
just a bit of welding and stuff, and as for the trailer for engineer aprovalls, it's going to be on DVD,
ahhh, how technology helps!

[|Noodles|]

:)

[Powerslidemike]

OPR072, damn I thought I was going to post the picture first, oh well I'll put the pic up anyway.

And this freak didn't even cut the firewall!!



http://www.geocities.com/jharkola/images/viku/rover8.jpg

Come on guys, only 2 more cylinders.

[blitz200sx]

hehehe, nice one Klown