brake fade

[changaz]

i have an n12 exa that i converted to 4wheel disks from an et.
after the disk rear conversion my pedal was hard as, i then replaced the front pads, now the brakes work good but after a bit of sydney driving they stop working completely. I know it is the pads as i just reco'd the calipers etc
would better pads fix the problem? (they are only standard bendix) or do i have to do another conversion to the ventilated front disks, i dont really wanna do this as cash is VERY minimal.

[dbasteve]

Originally posted by changaz
i have an n12 exa that i converted to 4wheel disks from an et.
after the disk rear conversion my pedal was hard as, i then replaced the front pads, now the brakes work good but after a bit of sydney driving they stop working completely. I know it is the pads as i just reco'd the calipers etc
would better pads fix the problem? (they are only standard bendix) or do i have to do another conversion to the ventilated front disks, i dont really wanna do this as cash is VERY minimal.

Are you getting a firm pedal but no friction ( bite )
If so your getting pad fade. If the rotor surface exceeds the pad temperature rating your pads are riding on a layer of resin.

Slotted rotors or a higher temperature pad will solve the above problem. Pads would be cheaper.
For the street Bendix Premium or Ultimate, Ferodo XL, or there is a new pad from Lucas that is inexpensive and works well.

[changaz]

thanks scuba steve, ill give the pads and possibly slotted rotors a go ;)

another question, what do you think of cross drilled rotors?? i was told they were prone to warping if heavy braking was an issue, is this true??

[dbasteve]

Originally posted by changaz
thanks scuba steve, ill give the pads and possibly slotted rotors a go ;)

another question, what do you think of cross drilled rotors?? i was told they were prone to warping if heavy braking was an issue, is this true??

This is totally dependant on driving style and the pads used .
If your heavy on the brakes there is a greater chance of dumping excess resin on your Cross Drilled rotors which will feel like a warped rotor.
Cross drilled rotors are great for wet weather and to add a bit more bite in general to your braking, but not for foot stomping madness.
If your a heavy braker or are carrying loads, the slotted rotors are much more robust for the application.

[MRTA22]

just a bit off topic, are you the steve that was at world skills challenge at wetherel park tafe???
i competed there and spoke to you for a while.
i was one of the army cat dicks and you were my judge in the brake section (i think!)

[dbasteve]

Originally posted by MRTA22
just a bit off topic, are you the steve that was at world skills challenge at wetherel park tafe???
i competed there and spoke to you for a while.
i was one of the army cat dicks and you were my judge in the brake section (i think!)

No thats the other Steve ( Sales + Training )

I'm the Steve they lock up in a room designing brakes and all that secret stuff.