Alarm + Turbo Timer = ?

[yodo]

I just brought an alarm system from CIVICEG9 who uses this forum and it works like a charm. It's The garage 8 remote start alarm. Anyway, my question is how can i connect the turbo timer incororation with the alarm? The alarm wont arm until the timer times out, very unsafe! I know you must use a relay but which wires hook up to the relay between the timer and alarm?

[tandy ass]

If life was so easy I'd be a millionare by now.






Turbo timers make cars too easy to steal, alarm or no alarm. They can be wired up with an alarm to make the car run on but it's well beyond the scope of understanding if you need to ask a question about it due to any one simple stuffup could render the car able to be hotwired in seconds.

[Chris Rogers]

bozz, that was the exact reason I didn't answer the Q...
yes it can be done ( it involves swapping a few wires.)
no relay is needed.

[yodo]

Thanks for the help guys! 1hr 30mins later after some experimenting, i figured it out! The secret is in our hands!!!

[tandy ass]

So, where is your car parked at night? ;)

[philterx]

But isnt the safe gaurds with some turbo timers?

like the handbrake sensor. or can this be overcome easily?

i got the greddy turbo timer and havent yet put the handbrake wire in yet.

is that a option to look for in turbo timers?? pay little extra? is it worth it?

[Chris Rogers]

the only type of timer I like are the two piece items. ( blitz??)
they have all the relays in an external box than can be hidden.

[yodo]

How easy is it to break a streering lock? Theives may be able start your car, but they cant take corners with the lock on.

[Chris Rogers]

got bolt cutters??

[Rattlehead]

Is it true that when u have a turbo timer - to set it up to work with ur alarm you need to get rid of the fuel pump kill?

[tripper]

what you want is 2 seprate circuits 1 for the alarm so the car can be left running with the alarm on and another for the imobiliser so it turns on after the timer has timed out

[tandy ass]

Originally posted by Bozz
If life was so easy I'd be a millionare by now.




My comment stands sooooo true....

Albeit many crooks wouldn't have the foggiest about automotive electronics, all you need is one that does and bye-bye car....

[Chris Rogers]

bozz ,
we are one of teh blessed few arent we..?

[tandy ass]

Chris, at times words fail me. Just simply knowing that most turbo timer installs can be very easily circumvented (and, in fact, most make it EASIER to start a car with or without an alarm system) but people persist.

Its also illegal to have one keep a vehicle operating once you leave it. I've removed a few turbo timers from friends cars after they saw how quickly I got the car started in front of their eyes, without the keys and with the alarm blaring. They instantly became believers.

But hey, what else can be done :)

[tripper]

Originally posted by Bozz
Chris, at times words fail me. Just simply knowing that most turbo timer installs can be very easily circumvented (and, in fact, most make it EASIER to start a car with or without an alarm system) but people persist.

Its also illegal to have one keep a vehicle operating once you leave it. I've removed a few turbo timers from friends cars after they saw how quickly I got the car started in front of their eyes, without the keys and with the alarm blaring. They instantly became believers.

But hey, what else can be done :)
But Bozz if they want your car bad enough they will take it no matter what type of alarm system or protection you have so you can only try and prevent it happening
ive heard of a true story from a cop of a stolen tow truck being used to steal cars with they would break into the car pop the bonnet break the siren and remove all the globes so no lights could be seen to flash so what is someone going think when they see the unstealable BMW on the back of tow truck at 2am ?

[tandy ass]

Pop the bonnet, break the siren then remove all globes. OK then.

Wouldn't the bonnet switches have triggered the alarm by this time? What about the second battery backed up siren? So your BMW is not so unstealable. I see no reason why they would remove all globes when its so much easier to disconnect (or cut) a battery wire. Sounds like bollocks to me.

Sure, if they want you car bad enough they will tow truck it away. So why install an alarm in the first place? Why not just leave your keys in the ignition?

Food for thought eh :)

[SirGoat]

there are 2 types of crimnals, amatures and pros.

Amatures are ranging from stealing the car for a joy-ride or a ride home to ripping out your stereo or stealing your "monster tacho" you can't stop these but you can slow them down with extra sirens, pager alert, 3 point imobilsor, carefully alarm wiring, etc....

Pros your car is with money either in full or parts your car is gone no questions asked Teh bmw can be stolen ...

My car alarm in what my car (nothing special just a nice stereo), has 4 sirens (3 on battery backup) 2 of which are internal screamers, 3 points of imobilisation, and remote paging. All wires are loomed carefully but i would say a few minutes with a pro my car wouldnt be there (luckily not being special hopefully im not a target of a pro).

Whats my point? Anything you do is to slow people down at best. A turbo timer is like pointing at the wires for them to attack!

[tandy ass]

Exactly.

[Rattlehead]

Well, besides a tow truck job, what else would a pro do? IMO true pros wouldnt get their hands dirty in public. Amatuers do hotwiring?

Well, I think this thread has good info...how about the guys that know their stuff tell us what is common and what we can do to protect that thing. Not much we can do about a tow truck dragging the car away...besides common sense things.

Anyway, last thing I want is for my car to be taken, and I'd rather know the kinda things they do than to know that within a few minutes everything I work for can be taken in a few minutes. Obviously nothing can stop thieves, but to slow them down...what things can be done?

As for turbo timers, is hiding it gonna help?

[tandy ass]

Same as hiding a key. They can be hidden and integrated into existing factory vehicle switchgear which, if done properly, can be quite effective but most ricers prefer to have the turbo timer in full view to advertise them. Also it doesn't help by leaving the car running as you walk off, that advertises it the most.