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myliberty
25-04-11, 05:51 PM
Still havent picked it up, but handed over cash today and took it for a drive. Will have it home in a couple of weeks.

stats are:
1988 Safari - yep, it's an import.
24v, power windows, 4 wheel disc brakes TD42.
steel bull bar, sliders/steps, rear bar, tyre rack.
2" spring lift, 1" perches
33" MT bajas on 15" steels


cant wait to see what it can do.

Dave
25-04-11, 06:35 PM
black steelies are the way :)

Looks mint

crack
25-04-11, 06:54 PM
that is fucken awesome. next level dubai spec engine build stat!

Dave
25-04-11, 07:10 PM
this thread may give your signature new meaning.

R.O.G.

bigshipengine.jpg
25-04-11, 07:16 PM
That looks excellent.
You must be hanging to get it!

myliberty
25-04-11, 08:31 PM
It started first pop today... Impressed, it does belch a little smoke, but I think a turbo^2 will clear that right up.

Yeah, can't wait to get it.

It'll need a clutch pretty much straight up, so when that happens, the engine will come out, turbo^2 added, clutch changed and all dropped back in.

nine2nine
25-04-11, 09:21 PM
Very nice looking rig. factory locker?

Will definitely go places.

hrt5l
25-04-11, 11:57 PM
Very tidy rig, nice purchase. The first scratch or dent will be upsetting. A glasshouse run is needed pronto.

BigMuz
26-04-11, 07:16 AM
Seeing as this is a passing fad I think we should leave your name as it is.

jzx83
26-04-11, 07:48 AM
turbo^2 ?

Presume you are talking compound turbs there Az.

Looks nice and clean, guessing it may get some mud on it fairly soon though.

bigshipengine.jpg
26-04-11, 07:56 AM
Yeah whats Turbo^2?

myliberty
26-04-11, 09:32 AM
Turbo^2 = compound turbo.

I made it up- its patented and copyright - myshorty productions.




PS. When you type myshorty on an iPhone, you get MHz orgy as a suggestion.
I presume this is a sign that I need to fit a UHF to this as well.

myliberty
26-04-11, 09:34 AM
Seeing as this is a passing fad I think we should leave your name as it is.

Possibly, but to build another one the same as the last would be a cold $60k That's enough to turn me off.

myliberty
26-04-11, 09:37 AM
For the hatrick,

Should I put a rollover hoop in it?

BigMuz
26-04-11, 09:45 AM
Did you sell off all the bits from the other one? I thought it was between gearboxes and then next thing it is stripped and some mental defective alcoholic has put an axe through it.

I just wonder whether it is possible to go from a ten second car to an uncomfortable, expensive noisy bad handling 18 second car and be happy. Truly.

myliberty
27-04-11, 12:22 PM
Did you sell off all the bits from the other one? I thought it was between gearboxes and then next thing it is stripped and some mental defective alcoholic has put an axe through it.

I just wonder whether it is possible to go from a ten second car to an uncomfortable, expensive noisy bad handling 18 second car and be happy. Truly.

Happier than you could ever imagine.

and it was only a 12 second car according to willowbank ;)

JZK25
27-04-11, 04:26 PM
Looks tough, you'll be lifting front wheels around corners once teh turbos are fitted.

willsy01
27-04-11, 04:38 PM
The spare has been overinflated.

HTH

myliberty
27-04-11, 04:57 PM
Muz,

I'm not in as much of a hurry these days.

SkidFace
27-04-11, 05:36 PM
That's the shit. Might have missed it, what'd you pay?

myliberty
27-04-11, 05:44 PM
$6k. happy as.

SkidFace
27-04-11, 07:07 PM
Yep worth it.

Dave
27-04-11, 07:12 PM
For the hatrick,

Should I put a rollover hoop in it?

Is julie driving it?

(hi jules :))

Sketchy
27-04-11, 08:34 PM
Is julie driving it?

(hi jules :))

Nah, its got a bullbar. She'll be fine.

bigshipengine.jpg
27-04-11, 10:06 PM
The spare has been overinflated.

HTH

Good eyes, i missed that but QFT

Shifty
28-04-11, 07:36 AM
lift, sunraysias, big tyres... can't go wrong. i love it.

TT
28-04-11, 08:41 AM
I'm not in as much of a hurry these days.

random post but I kinda feel this way too...
not sure if buying my S13 was a good idea :dunno:

cracka
02-05-11, 08:51 PM
What noone told az was the fact I've done clutch dumps in this very shorty 18 months ago... :p

myliberty
09-05-11, 09:28 AM
Cracka and I spent yesterday undoing 20 years of DIY.

It's a wonder this thing ran (from an electrical point of view).

Owner wanted to change the head unit to a pioneer thing with ipod shit. so there was 400m of 2.5-3mm electrical cable spaghettiing around the car with a DC-DC converter under the drivers seat to power the stereo. (truck is 24v)
We ripped all that out and wired up the pioneer head unit to the factory loom. 24v patrols come with a clarion DC-DC converter in the kick panel that runs a 12v head unit from the factory.
DIY fail.

It's an import, so it had a rear passenger heater. ripped all that out, along with the accompanying copper heater lines in the cab. Useless crap.

Ripped out the rear seat. I give no fark for passengers.

Ripped out 2 separate unrelated attempts at spotlight wiring - another abomination of DIY fail.

Changed battery terminals from fully sik gold plated and not quite working and slightly melting when the starter motor was used battery terminal, to a proper screw down connector and repaired the starter strap. changed -ve also and re-used the 55mm earth straps I had in the liberty to ground engine and body.

Flushed coolant. changed fuel filter.

next week I'm changing engine, gearbox and diff oils and chasing an issue with the temp gauge not working...

$6k in, by next week, I'll be up to $7k and have a fucking awesome reliable little truck.

Can't wait to find some hills/sand/mud and see where it can go.

Dave
09-05-11, 04:43 PM
have you over tightened every bolt in the car yet?

If not, I suggest you do this immediately

p.s. "Need a tow"

:D

tim510
10-05-11, 08:39 AM
That looks awesome Az..

myliberty
10-05-11, 08:54 AM
Apparently the water pump is not as awesome as first thought....

so this weekend now involves a water pump change too.
Which isn't so bad - needs thermostat and new temp sender and needs new belts and fan clutch re-oiled.

I bought this thing because the liberty was costing too much.

I fail at cars.

myliberty
09-06-11, 07:34 PM
A month later....

new water pump gasket,
thermostat, thermostat gasket,
heater hoses, radiator hoses,
56mm alloy radiator

new battery terminals and general electrical fixups.

cut off spotty mounts and welded them on an inch lower, now sports a pair of hella rallye 4000's.

changed engine oil and filters, gearbox oil, transfer case oil, front and rear diff oil.
flushed and changed clutch fluid. Greased every grease nipple I could find under her. Confirmed rear LSD while on the hoist, then double checked by dropping clutch on a vacant block - yep, twin rooster tails from the MT's.

sent dash to Lionel Otto Instruments to have temp gauge repaired (busted resister or something) and re-installed.

ordered and had delivered (not installed yet) Auberins boost gauge, EGT gauge and head temp (bolt on thermocouple) gauge.

getting there.

Needs more fknwhoosh.

Dave
09-06-11, 08:50 PM
Al tells me there is a metric fuckload of boost coming

confirm / deny

BigMuz
09-06-11, 09:25 PM
Skid pics or you are ghey- confirm/deny

myliberty
09-06-11, 10:13 PM
Skid pics or you are ghey- confirm/deny

It won't turn 33's on bitumen.
Dirt skids dont count, I can do dirt skids on my mountain bike.

JZK25
10-06-11, 07:01 AM
Did you get a 9bar boost gauge?

Dave
10-06-11, 08:54 AM
9 bar = r.o.g. + engine block shards in forehead

MartyHusseinXF
10-06-11, 09:06 AM
I'm not a GQ expert but I would have thought that not turning 33's means lack of boost?

bahaimus
10-06-11, 09:58 AM
I'm not a GQ expert but I would have thought that not turning 33's means lack of boost?

Or excess of ghey.

Same same.

Sketchy
10-06-11, 12:39 PM
It won't turn 33's on bitumen.
Dirt skids dont count, I can do dirt skids on my face.

Trudat. Seen it with my own eyes.

nine2nine
10-06-11, 03:44 PM
I can smoke 33's on bitumen with my td42. I agree with needs more boost+fuel.

Paydirt
10-06-11, 07:36 PM
I want to see some more pics of this thing. Looks neat in the first pic.

PS -You're only cool when you smoke 35's. ;)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Paydirt/DSC01267.jpg

whippet
13-06-11, 06:35 PM
need to buy my twins Aaron then you can smoke 37's i can bag my 35's in second..... dyno tomorrow. will post up a thread soon

myliberty
13-06-11, 06:52 PM
how much? What's included?

whippet
15-06-11, 06:33 AM
how much? What's included?

you'll have to ask Al whats included, i went down with a mate he got 123.5hp on his 2860 14psi turboed n/a gu ute with 35 inch fc11's. and i got 157.5hp on 17psi on 35 inch mtz's. can show dyno sheet

myliberty
15-06-11, 07:04 AM
Everything is included TD42 and all, Al said you are putting a Detroit diesel 8V92 in yours.

Hurry up and take all that shit out so I can bolt it on mine this weekend.

myliberty
18-06-11, 09:22 PM
First 4WD play today. It's pretty capable - better than expexted, very happy with it.

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BigMuz
18-06-11, 09:57 PM
Looks like a fucking cool place.

Bags not mowing the lawn :D

turbovaliant
18-06-11, 11:08 PM
Cashmere?

hrt5l
18-06-11, 11:19 PM
will be good to put this thing through its paces at the PF 4x4 day

JZK25
19-06-11, 08:27 AM
Needs more compound turbo.

myliberty
19-06-11, 09:28 AM
Needs any sort of turbo.

That's at the inlaw's house. That hill is the standard test for all 4wd's.
I couldn't crawl up it. The turbo 80 series with arb air lockers could. Most disappointed.

But it nailed everything with ease with a bit of a run up where the 80 and hilux had issues - mostly tyres I'm betting. The 33" MTZs loved it.

Also went more places in 2wd than the others. Again - tyres I think.

JZK25
19-06-11, 11:24 AM
Hurry up and get a fucking turbo then?

lickmyleftone
19-06-11, 02:01 PM
where's a 4088r when you need one?

Dave
19-06-11, 03:12 PM
turbo kit + air lockers will be win on this thing

Did you get the disabled sign for it?

myliberty
19-06-11, 11:50 PM
I'll never put air lockers in it.

It has a LSD rear and in due course I'll put a lock right lokka centre in the front. But theres no point doing that if it can go everywhere I want it to without it.

Needs another 50% more power, just to spank the toyotas.
Not that I want to start that fight, nopics old man will just drag out the twin turbo V8 200 series and decimate all.

myliberty
19-06-11, 11:55 PM
where's a 4088r when you need one?

It was swapped for a twin turbo setup for the Shorty.

So I guess the answer to your question is - exactly where it needs to be?

hrt5l
20-06-11, 06:30 PM
. But theres no point doing that if it can go everywhere I want it to without it.

You will find out soon enough that you can never go everywhere you want to go, as soon as you conquer one hill you will go looking for the next until lockers become a necessity. 4x4ing gets addictive like that

myliberty
20-06-11, 08:44 PM
You will find out soon enough that you can never go everywhere you want to go, as soon as you conquer one hill you will go looking for the next until lockers become a necessity. 4x4ing gets addictive like that

[fingers in ears]nah nah nah not listening...[/fingers in ears]

fly510
20-06-11, 08:46 PM
lockers are awesome. They make snotty, nasty shit almost effortless. Tyres only get you so far.

23Kev
26-06-11, 08:57 AM
Yeh I'm thinking I'd prefer to get lockers before just about any other mod.

They look they make shit easily doable rather than having to use speed and momentum....which is what the shorty had to do in Az's vid.

myliberty
26-06-11, 09:27 AM
yeah, the trubo cruiser with ARB front and rear lockers could crawl up the hill in low range.

I couldn't get up it in low range. Could get air in high range.

Guess who had more fun?

fly510
26-06-11, 01:32 PM
Yeh more fun till something breaks from bouncing off everything along the way due to the momentum you need to get up anything decent.

I know I sound like a kill joy but when you've been behind the wheel for a few hours on a trail and come to a big climb you'll be loving just crawling up with the lockers on. Just my minor 2c worth on the topic.

myliberty
28-06-11, 09:18 PM
This shorty now owns a new TD04.

JZK25
29-06-11, 07:32 AM
TDO4HL-15G 12cm housing, external gate blowing into TDO6H-20G-10cm internal gate.
External gate on manifold exits into dump pipe at TDO6 inlet flange.

10psi on TDO6, 10-20 on TDO4.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbocharger-Mitsubishi-TD04H-15G-ISUZU-4BG1T-SK120-1-/270764719722?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f0ad5be6a#ht_2168wt_1139

JZK25
29-06-11, 06:29 PM
Hurry up cunt.

hrt5l
30-06-11, 05:47 PM
I agree, hurry up and do this compound thing

JZK25
30-06-11, 05:52 PM
I agree, hurry up and do this compound thing

Yes, what he said, hurry up Az cunt.

myliberty
30-06-11, 06:48 PM
Waiting on SketchypiMp to provide TD06 and Sebastion to provide twin VH46 setup for my old man so I can steal his manidfold.

JZK25
30-06-11, 07:25 PM
Buy that jdmimport manifold, I don't want to have to weld shit. Or wait.

JZK25
01-07-11, 06:58 AM
Hurry up cunt!

http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/17096787+w750+st0/0903or_05_z+aurora_plus_compund_turbo_system+displ ay.jpg

Dave
01-07-11, 07:02 AM
is that a perpetual motion device?

Dave
01-07-11, 07:02 AM
is that a perpetual motion device?

JZK25
01-07-11, 07:08 AM
Yes and it also provides lots of BAR.

myliberty
10-07-11, 02:04 PM
After some fucking around...
I have head temp and EGT gauges working, I have fresh brake fluid with no bubbles(fuck, I've never seen so much air come out of a brake system).

Did a valve lash adjustment, book says .30mm, I said .20mm. With that done, and a tank full of 200:1 fully synthetic castrol 2stroke + BP's finest diesel, the old girl could pass for a petrol engine.
I'm amazed how quiet it is for a 23yo diesel engine.

Also bunged a bit more fuel in it, bout a 1/4 turn, it's a bit much, cause I can get 700 degrees out of it on a moderate hill, but for now it'll do, I can just back out of it if it gets hot. Will need the fuel for the turbo in a few weeks anyway.

This old girl loves the attention. Can't wait to get it dirty next weekend. :)

Sketchy
10-07-11, 02:13 PM
Come pick me and take me for a run to Al's and show me. I need ally welding, you need beer, Al needs something thats less important :)

myliberty
11-07-11, 10:59 AM
nope.

probably would have if I saw the message, but I didn't and went and pointed at Dave making a mess of the VK wiring :)

wagoner
17-07-11, 10:46 PM
i like the way you're not spending money on this az.

bigshipengine.jpg
18-07-11, 07:45 PM
I run 200:1 2 stroke in mine also and its way quiter.
I missed a couple of tanks last month and it sounded way noisier without it.

myliberty
21-07-11, 07:23 PM
upon close inspection today, this needs 4 new wheels, because none of the wheels are round, new wheel bearings in the front, or at least repacking and an LS1.

myliberty
23-07-11, 07:51 PM
also found that previous owner left half of the auto locking hubs still installed when changing to manual hubs.
the new hub lock assy crushed the bits left over and mangled the axle tube thread - also chunks of metal in the hub.

pulled it all apart and cleaned up and by the grace of god, the locking nut went back on without cross threading.
so now the wheels (that aren't round) at least arent going to fall off.

hrd
12-08-11, 10:15 AM
It started first pop today... Impressed, it does belch a little smoke, but I think a turbo^2 will clear that right up.


all these imported Safaris pretty much need injector pump rebuilds (may have already been done?). The original seals don't like the low sulpher fuels these days.

You injectors will also be shot unless they've been done. If you're looking for power with the turbo setup, at least replace the injectors. You can get exchange ones for SFA for these TD42s.


there was 400m of 2.5-3mm electrical cable spaghettiing around the car with a DC-DC converter under the drivers seat to power the stereo. (truck is 24v)
We ripped all that out and wired up the pioneer head unit to the factory loom. 24v patrols come with a clarion DC-DC converter in the kick panel that runs a 12v head unit from the factory.
DIY fail.

no-one else I know has ever got enough amps from the factory kick panel convertor to drive a CD player. Not that anyone really uses CDs anymore.

Keep the convertor for other accessories like a UHF. Factory convertor will power it fine for recieving, but not have enough amps to transmit.

get used to keeping an eye out for Supercheap/Repco 20% off days and stock up on 20l drums of diesel oil.

does yours have the PTO winch?

myliberty
12-08-11, 09:46 PM
I run it on synthetic 2 stroke oil.

I have 40L of rimula x under the house thanks to last sale.

It runs better than any other patrol ive driven.

I have my own 30a dc converter charging a 12v battery under the centre console to run accessories and 1.7kw of amplifiers. Factory converter runs headunit - iPod provides tunes.

Just needs more turbo.

hrd
13-08-11, 06:47 PM
sorted then. Yes, the old silvertops love turbos!

myliberty
13-08-11, 07:21 PM
It never had a PTO winch as far as I can tell, but it has a bolt on blanking plate where the PTO output shaft would be installed.

Any idea what would be involved in installing a PTO winch?

hrd
15-08-11, 03:55 PM
yeah, the early boxes all have the PTO blanking plate. It should be a matter of just bolting everything up if you can find a complete PTO setup for sale. You'd almost certainly have to modify the exhaust to clear the PTO shaft though. I'll stick my head under mine and have a closer look

mx_paul
15-08-11, 04:01 PM
Hurry up cunt!

http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/17096787+w750+st0/0903or_05_z+aurora_plus_compund_turbo_system+displ ay.jpg

Totally agree :yup:

JZK25
16-10-11, 06:45 PM
Hurry up cunt!

http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/17096787+w750+st0/0903or_05_z+aurora_plus_compund_turbo_system+displ ay.jpg

Yes I agree with you paul.

I rode in this today, goes as good as those NA RB26's. NA is where it's at.

JZK25
16-10-11, 06:46 PM
And his exhaust temps were so high that compounding is the only solution.

cracka
27-11-11, 07:40 AM
Is this turbo'd yet?

myliberty
27-11-11, 05:35 PM
Sadly no. I drove up a hill today, it took 7 hours, or at least felt like it.

hrt5l
27-11-11, 07:35 PM
Saw your compound turbo thread on patrol forums, to get power from the td42 you need to spend money on a fuel pump, im in the same boat as you, i want the power but cant justify the stupid prices they want for a pump.

myliberty
27-11-11, 07:41 PM
I bought a TD04-15G to put on it by itself with the standard pump.

Not a race truck.

cracka
06-12-12, 05:23 PM
I bought this. Myshortykitty decided he wants 1UZ more than a reliable awesome daily pootroll.

So far fixed the leaking washer bottle. Still 20 years of failed DIY in this fucking truck I'll sort out one day, at leasy a half dozen relays with nothing plugged in and wires leading nowhere.
Brake biasing valve fixed today, as was swaybar disconnect which was not disconnecting.

Next week it goes up to the skid factory. Big WTA cooler and radiator going in, GT2860, new clutch, tidy up current bashed into half exhaust and anything else Al and Miles see needs doing.
Week after it's getting 17x8 sunnies and highway tyres at stock diameter.
New brake discs/pads all around
Fixing leaky swivel seals and new wheel bearings.
That same week it's also getting inverted mono bilstein struts all round, stock height heavy duty springs and all body bushes replaced along with stock panhard rods. Thank fuck.

If it needs it which I doubt, Aneroid compensated rebuilt pump and replacement stock injectors is under 2k fitted so power potential plenty high for me. Will see if it does.

After that I'll probably fuck about with the interior, maybe a set of elec leather seats from a liberty and new carpet, new subs, door trims and Boston Pro 60 SE comp splits so Az can have his MB's back.

End result I hope is a half decent turning, stopping and going shorty that does 110 up the highway nice and quiet and comfortably, and will be an epic tow vehicle for a skid factory sponsored jet ski, because fast cars is a suckers game. Currently it cant turn the 33's at more than about 90 without EGT's going through the roof.

Expensive month but she's getting one hell of a birthday.

cracka
06-12-12, 05:28 PM
Also for clarification, becoming road truck because JZK25 doesnt believe in compound turbos. So fuck it, offroad shit goes in bin and I get street car with a good view.

Shame.

Dexi
06-12-12, 07:41 PM
Meh whack the muddys on and it will probably go wherever you point it. 1uz would sound awesome though...

I'm DJ!
06-12-12, 08:22 PM
Nice mud plugger

piss98
06-12-12, 10:51 PM
Who Cracka or Azz?

cracka
06-12-12, 11:54 PM
It has muddies. Muddies are shit. Highway terrains, bilsteins, stock height instead of 3-4 inch lift and fucked shocks will be perfect.

JZK25
07-12-12, 06:01 AM
You can compound the cummins ISB CR when you put that in.

cracka
07-12-12, 07:08 AM
Compound cummins in a G wagon. One day.

myliberty
07-12-12, 07:14 AM
lol no comment.

cracka
07-12-12, 07:43 AM
lol no comment.

Jet ski tow car. Win

myliberty
07-12-12, 08:48 AM
Turbo Jet ski turbo tow car. Win

fixed

ls400x
07-12-12, 08:55 AM
TB48 crank and new cam to suit different firing order. Be the first.

cracka
07-12-12, 09:12 AM
for epic diesel mootec noise

The Pupat
07-12-12, 09:19 AM
Turbo Jet ski tow car. Win

Sweet someone else Jet Ski to fuck.

cracka
07-12-12, 09:53 AM
Have yet to fuck your jet ski mate, but happy to have a crack at the earliest convenience.

JZK25
07-12-12, 12:08 PM
TB48 crank and new cam to suit different firing order. Be the first.

Wut?

nine2nine
07-12-12, 04:20 PM
Problem with these old diesels, is no matter how well you get them going they will still be slow. But if you do want it for highway and towing use, you have the right idea.

cracka
07-12-12, 04:32 PM
Going fast is beyond budget, so throwing 8-10k at patrol to go slow and not be disappointed.

ls400x
07-12-12, 11:47 PM
Wut?

Same journals and spacing apparantly, 102mm v 96mm stroke. I've not personally sat one in a TD block though.

irsa76
09-12-12, 10:51 AM
Same journals and spacing apparantly, 102mm v 96mm stroke. I've not personally sat one in a TD block though.

Would the TB48 crank be strong enough for a diesel though? Iirc the TD42 crank is different to the TB42, mind you it's been 10 years since I've been near one.

SR20 KE30
09-12-12, 12:11 PM
So you bought gq pootrol to cruise highway, tow jetski, and be comfy in? Really?

50RTD
10-12-12, 04:59 PM
It has muddies. Muddies are shit. Highway terrains, bilsteins, stock height instead of 3-4 inch lift and fucked shocks will be perfect.


Put 17" sunnies on it with low profile semi-slicks. GQ motard.

Will lift inside tyre around corners. Chicks dig that shit.

stints
14-12-12, 10:41 AM
Lol at Cracka!!61805

myliberty
14-12-12, 11:04 AM
baahahahaha

da9jeff
14-12-12, 11:28 AM
So you bought gq pootrol to cruise highway, tow jetski, and be comfy in? Really?

it must be a big jetski.

JZK25
14-12-12, 02:12 PM
Has a turbo and inter cooler to go with the exhaust tip too.

61810

cracka
14-12-12, 02:36 PM
Why not billet bro.

Didnt even give me the choice.

SR20 KE30
15-12-12, 07:08 AM
great idea with the water to air location, should work a treat.

cracka
02-01-13, 08:10 PM
So got all the water to air shit hooked up, egt sensor bung machined to take the sender, made a super high quality reservoir for $9. Falcon heater barbs, supercheap overflow tank, plastic putty/knead it shit, 3/4 heater hose, bosche ford cobra wta pump in spare 044 mount, head temp gauge dumped on reservoir. Will get skid factory to make a nice billet 3-4L tank one day. Coke bottle catch can system (tm) working and doubles as overflow for wta reservoir.

Wta coolant sits about 35degc on highway, up to 70 round town. So needs more volume.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/337D896D-6A7B-48C4-8450-A526590B8586-3630-0000024FD6570AB5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/4A09BE4D-9F4B-4B6C-BD7C-E80D63B979D4-3630-0000024FDCEAE166.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/441F2EDB-8207-482B-B3B2-C4F168E2E55E-3630-0000024FE5B89052.jpg

24 year old door cards were completely fucked after being submerged a few times, and 100wrms of 6.5 component bashing them to pieces. Made new ones from 9mm mdf, along with the start of the interior recolour from brown to black/grey/blue stripe because I had blue paint sitting about...solid as a fucking rock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/305E453C-A1EF-4583-B3C8-BEE2C83B0990-3630-0000024D14C00869.jpg

Also got the 17 sunnies on with highway tyres. Infinitely nicer to drive. Removed roof rack that's never been used.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/FE19D41C-4827-43B1-87E0-7E66A4AD06D3-1250-000000E33231E7C0.jpg

About to get 5x of these on and a new spare.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/0018BED2-F383-4BDD-B55E-44D73666CAEA-3630-0000024FD5E4690C.jpg

All up with tyres turbo and IC it pulls to 140 easily, used to struggle to get above 100. EGT's at 100 were 550-600c. Now 340ish.

Next up be mono inverted bilsteins, stock height dobinsons coils made about 20% stiffer than stock. Should drpp it 55mm or so by measurement. Work out an airbox and put snorkel back to use. Full 3" exhaust and less love heart tail pipe (thanks skidfactory),

Also on cards is new seats. If I can find vz s or SS seats,
Or some liberty gen4 fronts cheap they'll be snapped up. Also going to respray front/rear bars. Then will be mint town car.

cracka
02-01-13, 08:12 PM
Also it revs a bit hard with the 31" tyres and turbo. So a set of 3.9's for beer money will pop up one day I'm sure.

myliberty
02-01-13, 08:18 PM
You're so full of shit. A stock GQ patrol pulling 600 degrees cruising at 100. Fuck off

myliberty
02-01-13, 08:20 PM
Keep the roof rack. "Never been used" is only since you bought it.... I fucking used it all the time.

Stop fucking with it you gimp.

cracka
02-01-13, 08:29 PM
Says the guy without work utes and work trucks for carrying shit :)

PRO#393
02-01-13, 09:46 PM
Cracka i have a set of 3.9's here i can bring down to brissy in feb for a slab if you can wait till then?

cracka
02-01-13, 10:09 PM
Can be arranged.

Dave
02-01-13, 10:56 PM
Never used since powercruise

cracka
02-01-13, 11:06 PM
I removed the carbon nanotube impregnated Kevlar multilayer unidirectional titanium and depleted uranium reinforced bonding between the roof rack and the roof. Fear not, it doesn't take a forklift, demo saw, charges and split atoms to affix and remove it anymore. Just four bolts with Allen heads, much like ikea, suitable for Sven. What an outrage we'll need to do them up once a year.

JZK25
03-01-13, 06:03 AM
You're so full of shit. A stock GQ patrol pulling 600 degrees cruising at 100. Fuck off

Fuck you Azcunt. Why you lock tool box????? Raaaaaaaaaaggggggggggee!!

I'm DJ!
03-01-13, 07:38 PM
Saw one yesterday (except lwb), bumpers, mini flare things sidesteps etc all colour coded. Look 'orright

cracka
04-01-13, 01:44 AM
It'd be nice to respray faded exterior shit, but that's a suckers game, having watched what Dave's just been through. Install the boston pro60's, new head unit and new subs, and above shit and its the perfect daily for next 10 years.

hrd
04-01-13, 08:30 AM
You're so full of shit. A stock GQ patrol pulling 600 degrees cruising at 100. Fuck off

you said yourself it was pumping out black soot, so of course EGTs are going to be high under load. And an NA TD42 is under load at 100 with 33s. I remember those bad old days before turbo-ing mine... It won't take long running too rich at a constant load for EGTs to get too high...

TT
04-01-13, 09:35 AM
lol... like you'll keep it for 10 years

MartyHusseinXF
04-01-13, 11:14 AM
Good for you for doing what you want.

But you seem to spend a lot of money ruining perfectly good cars :)

myliberty
04-01-13, 12:10 PM
you said yourself it was pumping out black soot, so of course EGTs are going to be high under load. And an NA TD42 is under load at 100 with 33s. I remember those bad old days before turbo-ing mine... It won't take long running too rich at a constant load for EGTs to get too high...

It had a pyro in the headers. I know exactly what it was doing.

myliberty
04-01-13, 12:12 PM
Also explain to me how it can run richer or leaner at a set load with static timing and a 1988 rotary uncompensated injection pump please. I'd like to know exactly how you think diesels work.

hrd
04-01-13, 02:12 PM
defensive!


It had a pyro in the headers. I know exactly what it was doing.

strange that you didn't reply with something like "it was only runnning at xxx degrees at 100kph when i had it" rather than just suggesting it was impossible for a stock Patrol to run high EGTs at 100kph, since you knew exactly what it was doing...


Also explain to me how it can run richer or leaner at a set load with static timing and a 1988 rotary uncompensated injection pump please. I'd like to know exactly how you think diesels work.

lol any fucking number of factors from right foot position, altitude, air filter (or other inlet restrictions), fuel filters and the gauze filter in the top of the pump, to know it all fuckwits playing with the fuel screw, condition of the pump (which by the way knows nothing about engine load, only right foot and rpm) and condition of injectors. Whether you belive it or not, it is possible for a rotary injected 88 Patrol to run too high EGTs.

can add exhaust to that list. crushed pipe or loose baffle in a muffler partially blocking the exhaust will make it both gutless and run higher EGTs

myliberty
04-01-13, 02:16 PM
so you don't get how they work. Cool

myliberty
04-01-13, 02:19 PM
used to run about 380-400 at 100.

myliberty
04-01-13, 02:22 PM
so you don't get how they work. Cool

I take that back. You have a rough idea.

Forget the rpm reference. Injection timing is static. Oh what any td42 owner wouldn't give for rpm referenced pump(timing) to extend that bulk torque a thousand rpm with more advance.

They really are that agricultural. Right foot is the only thing it cares about. The fuel screw increases the volume of fuel across the throttle range, which is why you have to reset idle stop every time you adjust it.

The reference to 100km/h is a flat road so a static load more or less for the purpose of the debate.

At that load, if you twist the fuel screw, you need less throttle to give you the same amount of fuel obviously.

We're not talking about all patrols and circumstances. It's about Cracka being full of shit with respect to why he added a turbo.

He did it because it was a good idea as it always is. More fknwoosh is always better. But saying that a stock TD42 ran hot doing 100kmh is just dumb.

Of course if you hit a big hill and bury the pedal in the carpet, you'll see 700+ on the pyro shortly followed by jingly jangly engine seizure noises.
That's why it has a pyro shock horror, so you can see it and back out of the throttle if it gets hot.

hrd
04-01-13, 02:29 PM
certainly more idea than you by all appearances...

Also explain to me how it can run richer or leaner at a set load with static timing and a 1988 rotary uncompensated injection pump please.

myliberty
04-01-13, 02:41 PM
Indeed. Your penis is also probably larger than mine.

Trouble here is that you are correct. You just missed the point.

DaveBxGT
04-01-13, 02:53 PM
Can we have a name change from myshortyboomba to crackasshortyboomba?

cracka
04-01-13, 03:16 PM
Moral of story. Sitting on 100, now is effortless. It used to turn fucking hard and use a bucketload of juice to do anything over 80.

I've been thrashing the guts out of it and l just got 580km from a tank with about 200 on the highway. All of it at 110ish not 85-90like before.

Hence wanting 3.9's in it now, shit will pay for itself in a few years without drama.

JZK25
04-01-13, 04:35 PM
Needs a new lower manifold, or maybe it doesn't. Who could know.

TD42T
04-01-13, 08:18 PM
[QUOTE=myshortyboomba;841634866]I
Forget the rpm reference. Injection timing is static. Oh what any td42 owner wouldn't give for rpm referenced pump(timing) to extend that bulk torque a thousand rpm with more advance.


LOL, wrong.
Timing is controlled by injector pump case pressure, it is not static.

Marty

BigMuz
04-01-13, 09:21 PM
Please explain?

nine2nine
04-01-13, 10:00 PM
I take that back. You have a rough idea.

Forget the rpm reference. Injection timing is static. Oh what any td42 owner wouldn't give for rpm referenced pump(timing) to extend that bulk torque a thousand rpm with more advance.

They really are that agricultural. Right foot is the only thing it cares about. The fuel screw increases the volume of fuel across the throttle range, which is why you have to reset idle stop every time you adjust it.

The reference to 100km/h is a flat road so a static load more or less for the purpose of the debate.

At that load, if you twist the fuel screw, you need less throttle to give you the same amount of fuel obviously.

We're not talking about all patrols and circumstances. It's about Cracka being full of shit with respect to why he added a turbo.

He did it because it was a good idea as it always is. More fknwoosh is always better. But saying that a stock TD42 ran hot doing 100kmh is just dumb.

Of course if you hit a big hill and bury the pedal in the carpet, you'll see 700+ on the pyro shortly followed by jingly jangly engine seizure noises.
That's why it has a pyro shock horror, so you can see it and back out of the throttle if it gets hot.

Man, you really know nothing about diesel fuel pumps. Timing is not static and the fuel screw effects pressure not volume. This is funny.

da9jeff
04-01-13, 11:35 PM
My rough understanding is that the throttle sets the rpm you want (governor spring tension) and the fuel screw just sets how much fuel is used to get to that rpm, plus max rpm, idle and boost compensation to make it fool proof. How far off am I? :p

hrd
05-01-13, 05:31 AM
I take that back. You have a rough idea.

Forget the rpm reference. Injection timing is static. Oh what any td42 owner wouldn't give for rpm referenced pump(timing) to extend that bulk torque a thousand rpm with more advance.

They really are that agricultural. Right foot is the only thing it cares about. The fuel screw increases the volume of fuel across the throttle range, which is why you have to reset idle stop every time you adjust it.

The reference to 100km/h is a flat road so a static load more or less for the purpose of the debate.

At that load, if you twist the fuel screw, you need less throttle to give you the same amount of fuel obviously.

We're not talking about all patrols and circumstances. It's about Cracka being full of shit with respect to why he added a turbo.

He did it because it was a good idea as it always is. More fknwoosh is always better. But saying that a stock TD42 ran hot doing 100kmh is just dumb.

Of course if you hit a big hill and bury the pedal in the carpet, you'll see 700+ on the pyro shortly followed by jingly jangly engine seizure noises.
That's why it has a pyro shock horror, so you can see it and back out of the throttle if it gets hot.

You made 2 posts in a row saying it is impossible for a old 88 model Patrol to run high EGT at 100kph, which is just bullshit. A NA TD42 does it hard with 33s. If you're not used to driving a diesel, and are using more throttle than required its easy to get high EGTs, particularly in 5th trying to push 33s to 100. If you have even a slight headwind, that's easier again. The reference to 100kph is just that - to doing 100kph in the real world. You're better off in 4th than 5th more often than not in that situation, both from the perspective of actually staying at 100kph up slight inclines (not hills, just the slight grades you get on the highway) and for EGTs because you're pumping alot more air at higher rpm.

And the pump does care about rpm - you do not get the same amount of fuel full throttle at 1500rpm as you do at 3500rpm. It has a variable governor which alters the volume of fuel pumped by the plunger based on rpm. The pump knows about rpm and throttle position. You know shit.

hrd
05-01-13, 05:42 AM
Please explain?

he's talking about crack pressure of the injectors. That's the other factor that controls timing - when crack pressure is achieved.

TD42T
05-01-13, 06:00 AM
Please explain?

As pump speed increases, the pumps internal transfer pump increases the case pressure (can be upto around 150psi) to move the timing piston attached to the cam plate rollers.
A compensator (aneriod) removes fuel (via the control sleeve bypass) at lower boost levels to clean things up (smoke), basically allowing to change the fuel curve below maximun fueling.
Max fuel screw changes delivery pressure which changes delivery volume.
Injector pop pressures,internal pump pressure setup, and static timeing (plunger lift) will all effect the way it runs.
Basic explanation anyway.
Search VE pump tuning/operation.

Marty

BigMuz
05-01-13, 12:05 PM
As pump speed increases, the pumps internal transfer pump increases the case pressure (can be upto around 150psi) to move the timing piston attached to the cam plate rollers.
A compensator (aneriod) removes fuel (via the control sleeve bypass) at lower boost levels to clean things up (smoke), basically allowing to change the fuel curve below maximun fueling.
Max fuel screw changes delivery pressure which changes delivery volume.
Injector pop pressures,internal pump pressure setup, and static timeing (plunger lift) will all effect the way it runs.
Basic explanation anyway.
Search VE pump tuning/operation.

Marty

BRB off to re learn my shit. Cheers

cracka
06-01-13, 11:46 AM
Links ? Or diesel pump class. Obviously a few confused or misguided thoughts and I don't know what is what. Rather learn than watch cunts name call and argue. I thought they were really quite simple in theory and maintained constant timing straight off crank speed that you set an 'ideal advance' for injection at the peak torque rpm and let diminishing returns play its part outside of that rpm when it comes to efficiency.

TT
06-01-13, 12:35 PM
Ok ok. You all have big dicks. Move on.
Cracka - put a V8 in it.

I'm DJ!
06-01-13, 01:02 PM
Subtle


Needs a new lower manifold, or maybe it doesn't. Who could know.

ls400x
20-01-13, 11:32 AM
TD42T is correct. There are add on modules for advanced start/cold injection timing to, not sure if it is on the GQ pump though. Injection timing advances as speed increases controlled by the pump body pressure developed by the vane pump. TD42Ti also has further timing control determined by the computer which allows them to be quieter at idle/low load.

The Bosch VE technical manual linked in a 4x4 chat thread covers everything.

ls400x
20-01-13, 11:34 AM
http://performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67268002-TD42-fuel-pump-mods-diesel-tuning-in-general

TT
20-02-13, 12:45 PM
Hey Cracka.

What is the deal with this car now?
is it for Sale?

a mate is looking for a small 4wd that he can take on beach and camping etc.

myliberty
20-02-13, 12:51 PM
everything is for sale.

but he just bought it for $6k and then spent $6k on it (suspension, wheels, tyres, turbo, intercooler etc.) and so He wouldn't deal for less than $12k.

TT
20-02-13, 12:57 PM
He wants to spend under $10K
will he go under $10K if he keeps the exhaust tip?

cracka
20-02-13, 01:01 PM
I could sell it, yes.

SWB Malaysian 24 volt Patrol.
TD42
Garrett GT2860 (2000km)
Frozen Boost water/Air Intercooler & Bosche OEM pump (2000km)
Bilstein gas struts (1000km old)
Dobinsons stock height coils (1000km old)
All bushes replaced throughout including chassis bushes (CUNT of a job)
Clutch 2000km old
New brake rotors and pads (not fitted, so 0km and can be).
5x Enkei ST6 wheels (gunmetal 17x8 1000km)
5x Achilles highway terrains (1000km)
4x Brand new Sunraysia 17x8 for spare wheels (no tyres fitted)
ARB/TJM/Something bull bar
ARB/TJM/Something Rear bar + spare wheel swing door.
ARB/TJM/Something Rocksliders and footstep.
Hella 4000s Driving lights
Alloy 60mm Radiator
Subaru STI 2001+ bucket seats.
New Batteries
12V gel cell accessory battery, 240v inverter, amp/cd player/meh splits.
New windscreen to be fitted (perished rubbers so replacing + screen)
Front hubs upgraded to GU style. Fair few other bits and pieces done.

Body in good condition for an SWB patrol, no rust, few scratches but generally 'good'. Dint here and there as it has been used, but its better than most shorties I see.

I can be talked down from 12k.

myliberty
20-02-13, 01:08 PM
offer him $11k + a fish tank. Cracka loves fishtanks.

TT
20-02-13, 01:16 PM
Got a current photo Cracka?
one that shows the new wheels and what not.

and what year model is this?
kms?

cracka
20-02-13, 04:13 PM
I'll take it down to chermside and let the asians wash it tomorrow night, and get a photo friday.
1989 Nissan Safari SWB
3something hundred something thousand km.

Also has an ARB/TJM/Something 3/4 roof rack & Safari snorkel.

Have a few 'niggly' issues to fix to make it good. Replace blown headlight, get Al to weld a radiator cap on WAIC and remove tank, fit 2nd STI seat, cut love heart exhaust tip off (no shit...). None of it relevant to the 10km I drive it every day or two. Also needs snorkel hooked up to intake. But I dont take it offroad or drive through floodwater.

cracka
20-02-13, 04:17 PM
offer him $11k + a fish tank. Cracka loves fishtanks.

I do like fishtanks...........

Karnage
20-02-13, 07:57 PM
I do like fishnets...........

:rotflol:

cracka
22-02-13, 10:17 AM
http://photobucket.com/GQSWBTD42

Pics there.

Front and rear bars going to get a lick of black paint at some stage when I can be fucked. Aside from that it is what it is, mechanically brilliant shorty with lots of new shit, in an unrusted state with no beach work, and a few scuffs/superficial scratches and a couple of little dents.

TT
22-02-13, 10:32 AM
seems he wants more soft roader
sorry mate.

cracka
22-02-13, 12:09 PM
Tell him he is a faggot.

TT
22-02-13, 12:39 PM
daily

cracka
22-02-13, 12:41 PM
I find your bedroom talk unsurprising

TT
22-02-13, 12:42 PM
jealous?

cracka
26-02-13, 01:26 PM
Spent a bit of time on the old girl tidying up wiring, running some new wires places, neatening up a few things.

Massive 'fuckoffthatshuge' Donaldson air filter in place. Dual element barrel filter with the inner element removed to increase CFM to what a TD42 needs at 4000rpm. Fucking awesome piece of kit and $170 bucks total. Elements are only $30 for genuine and K&N, Unifilter, Donaldson all make shit to fit in them. Fits like a glove, mounted on a bit of 50mm foam shaped to suit with some rubber tie downs so it can all flex with the engine nicely.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/photo4_zps8e4cc551.jpg

Also redid the WAIC lines. Now there is 3/4" tee's with ball valves off the T. One as a bleed at the top of the system, and another at the bottom with a standard hose coupling as a fill. Can fill and bleed it in about 10 seconds with a garden hose. Mint. Also put 3/4" brass angles in all places the hoses bend so theres no more kinking, and I removed the reservoir for it.

Also new radiator caps and overflow lines into a new overflow bottle that is shared by both the engine and WAIC. Works mint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/photo2_zps2a968d26.jpg

Lastly I re-did all the engine earths, and thanks to Donaldson filter, I put two new Duracell calcium maitanance free batteries in. Both are 450CCA and the big cunts were 675. Not even a difference in starting it, they come so overpowered battery wise as is. Bit neater wiring and nice little rubber caps and shit. $160 a battery, and they're 40cca off what an equivelent sized optima is, but also 50cca higher than anything else that size. 3yr unconditional warranty is win.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/iansphotos/photo1_zps1e01f791.jpg

Gave the engine bay a good degreasing and wipe over, so it looks mint now. Filter has shut it up a little which is nice. seals well as I can nearly stall it with hand over it and trying to seal the crank breather hose.

And I've ordered a nifty little oil coalescing filler cap that subaru faggots rave about. Will run crank and rocker breathers into it, and line from it into turbo in leiu of a catch can. Does same job, less mess. Just need to make an adaptor from M32*3.5 to M45*4.5 due to different filler threads.

Sometime next week I hope to be at Skidfactory (TM) for changing diffs to 3.9's, fixing hub wiper seal which is a bit meh on one hub, and getting a stainless snorkel made up to mate up to the donaldson.

Either way its still for sale and Im just a stupid cunt spending more and more money on it. Fun to work on it though.

cracka
26-02-13, 01:42 PM
Oh and it got a new steering wheel, floor mats, gear knob and is getting new window rubbers tomorrow.

V tidy.

blute
26-02-13, 08:07 PM
Pfft-buy a Tojo-this shit too hard; and its a nissan,with bulk money spent=TROUBLE, and stoopid questions from other stockbox nissan owners........

cracka
28-02-13, 11:43 AM
Turbo and manifold off. Re facing manifold because of little leak, and new gasket, and fixing broken stud.

Then wire a horn back in, wire the 12v Bosch WTA pump to run at 12 not 24 (converter shat itself and its run on 24 for a few days).

Then for sale with 5x new 16x8 patrol steel wheels and new 33" KM71 kuhmo all terrains, or new 17 alloys and 31" highway tyres.

da9jeff
28-02-13, 06:26 PM
What happened to the 2t jetski you were going to tow?

cracka
28-02-13, 06:50 PM
meh