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Mike Lowrrryyy
02-06-14, 10:42 PM
So after Jim and I talking this though for like 5 minutes we both agree it's time to have a crack at beating our P.B of 12.3. We don't have a car yet but that shouldn't be a big issue. As you would of noticed we are going to have a shot with a Falcon this time. So far I know I have a very questionable to4e and gate in the shed. I also have an intercooler left over from my 911 some place and some 36lb Bosch injectors.

Stay tuned.

Jim
02-06-14, 10:44 PM
We had a long hard think for about 30 seconds about what cars we don't like and should damage in order to go fast, and the falcon was top of our list of about 1 types of cars.

ALLMTR
02-06-14, 10:45 PM
Au!

F|sh
02-06-14, 10:46 PM
the pf-717 should be the victim

Mike Lowrrryyy
02-06-14, 10:49 PM
That would be perfect but we would need the guys onboard.

Jim
02-06-14, 10:50 PM
I'd run the PF Love Bus no worries. It may not pass rego tho.
What would be involved in losing the gas system?

As stated, the collective would have to agree.

MRMOPARMAN
02-06-14, 10:50 PM
im all for it. the SA guys will be hating life however :D

MRMOPARMAN
02-06-14, 10:52 PM
its on straight gas, so would need lines, tank, pumps, injectors, rail, probably ecu and wiring, inlet manifold (or drill old one). big job! just blow through gas it, gas loves boost! set of LPG rods and old BA turbo pistons and your good to go!

Mike Lowrrryyy
02-06-14, 11:03 PM
Rods&Pistons? Are you fucking crazy? They cost money and I ain't got time for money!

blownhemi
02-06-14, 11:07 PM
cool shit, go for it

maybe I should do a VN

MRMOPARMAN
02-06-14, 11:32 PM
Rods&Pistons? Are you fucking crazy? They cost money and I ain't got time for money!

Id highly doubt you will crack a 12 in the coon on standard rods and pistons. This aint no dirty old buick heap of shit, its a precision tuned hektik lightened race machine!

blownhemi
02-06-14, 11:48 PM
Standard rods and pistons are good for 10s. Mike's dyno used to bolt stock bottom ends into their 10sec EA. Of course having your own dyno does help develop tune cheap.

Shit, I dumped 125hp worth of nitrous into mine repeatedly and never broke a thing.

ALLMTR
02-06-14, 11:49 PM
Blownhemi had the mph to run a 12 on standard shit

Edit : Tree'd

Greg Rust
03-06-14, 12:40 AM
All aboard the night train.

Jim
03-06-14, 06:22 AM
Blownhemi had the mph to run a 12 on standard shit

Edit : Tree'd

We had the mph to run a 14 in the vn and ran a 12 :lol:

blownhemi
03-06-14, 07:30 AM
We had the mph to run a 14 in the vn and ran a 12 :lol:

True but the Falcon did it over and over and over. You guys will do well with a Falcon.

My advice would be to start with an EB Series-II, so you get a 4-litre but don't need engine seap. EA would be the next choice, because it's lighter again.

The EL was just too heavy. I should have hacked the fuck out of it like you guys did.

I have an EF with 215,000km or so if you guys are willing to travel 600km to get it. Also have XR6 head, gasket and cop ECU to suit. Gimme $300 for that and you can have car for free. It needs ignition key and barrel though.

MRMOPARMAN
03-06-14, 08:15 AM
Standard rods and pistons are good for 10s. Mike's dyno used to bolt stock bottom ends into their 10sec EA. Of course having your own dyno does help develop tune cheap.

Shit, I dumped 125hp worth of nitrous into mine repeatedly and never broke a thing.

Pre au stuff yes. Au on has toothpick rods.

Spoonfed
03-06-14, 09:29 AM
I thought the dedicated EGas engines had better rods/pistons stock? (or is that later/after AU).

MRMOPARMAN
03-06-14, 10:03 AM
I thought the dedicated EGas engines had better rods/pistons stock? (or is that later/after AU).

Yep your right. 717 has an xr6 motor in it.. or at the very least, an xr6 rocker cover.

big_pete
03-06-14, 12:53 PM
hmm, I feel a Falcoon would be too easy a project for you guys. You need to shoehorn a larger something into a smaller something

Sketchy
03-06-14, 01:00 PM
Do it. It's a dismal cunt of thing that would be better served as a gutted cheapshit drag car than the unfunny joke it is now. I would much rather see it go from 20 second quarters to 10's than sitting in a yard for weeks at a time while people complain about driving it on the Internet.

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BreaksMyWallet
03-06-14, 01:21 PM
Yeah. Drags would be a fitting send-off, in whatever form the car happens to be by that stage.

Stix Zadinia
03-06-14, 01:24 PM
yeah do it to PF717

I've got a code reader i'll bring to the scotch night so you've got an idea on what's boned

big_pete
03-06-14, 02:02 PM
Do it. It's a dismal cunt of thing that would be better served as a gutted cheapshit drag car than the unfunny joke it is now. I would much rather see it go from 20 second quarters to 10's than sitting in a yard for weeks at a time while people complain about driving it on the Internet.



I tend to agree.

PF717 is destined to end up halfway between Melbourne and Adelaide, out of rego, and stuck on someones front lawn.

Might as well use it for one of PF's actual achievements in the 13's for 1300 challenge.

Jim
03-06-14, 02:07 PM
We do have a reputation of getting shit done here in Newcastle.

Faux Forg
03-06-14, 02:18 PM
http://bullshitnotincluded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/benStillerDoIt.jpg

no13b_Coupe
03-06-14, 02:19 PM
If you take pf717 I might be able to get some standard BF rims with tyres if you need.

There's a fella up the street throwing them out. I can sus/grab if you like? May have better thread than what's on it at the moment.

They weren't there when we passed it on. Week later they turn up.

TJ
03-06-14, 02:20 PM
Do it.

Sketchy
03-06-14, 02:33 PM
I tend to agree.

PF717 is destined to end up halfway between Melbourne and Adelaide, out of rego, and stuck on someones front lawn.

Might as well use it for one of PF's actual achievements in the 13's for 1300 challenge.

I had internded to pilot it from Newcastle to Brisbane so it at least made it to the eastern seaboard before it was made into a rolling shitcunt magnet. I appreciate the lol factor, but I'm not driving in the fourth reich of Queensland or putting it in my driveway. It currently has a brown datsun, a smashed 300zx and a beater E30 skid car so that should give you some idea how enthralled in the idea I am. It would have copped a drunken WW2 fighter plane scheme if dumb paint jobs were the only option.

Sketchy
03-06-14, 02:34 PM
...drunken WW2 fighter plane scheme if dumb paint jobs were the only option.

P.S Do this.

Jim
03-06-14, 02:54 PM
Would paint it with a roller before I get in it again.

Stix Zadinia
03-06-14, 02:56 PM
I had internded to pilot it from Newcastle to Brisbane so it at least made it to the eastern seaboard before it was made into a rolling shitcunt magnet. I appreciate the lol factor, but I'm not driving in the fourth reich of Queensland or putting it in my driveway. It currently has a brown datsun, a smashed 300zx and a beater E30 skid car so that should give you some idea how enthralled in the idea I am. It would have copped a drunken WW2 fighter plane scheme if dumb paint jobs were the only option.

we could still give this a shot at the scotch night.

MRMOPARMAN
03-06-14, 03:03 PM
I had internded to pilot it from Newcastle to Brisbane so it at least made it to the eastern seaboard before it was made into a rolling shitcunt magnet. I appreciate the lol factor, but I'm not driving in the fourth reich of Queensland or putting it in my driveway. It currently has a brown datsun, a smashed 300zx and a beater E30 skid car so that should give you some idea how enthralled in the idea I am. It would have copped a drunken WW2 fighter plane scheme if dumb paint jobs were the only option.

Its starting to flake off anyways.. a quick hit with the pressure washer should fix most of it.

ALLMTR
03-06-14, 03:33 PM
I can supply barrel and key, I'll see what xr bits we've got tomorrow

Mike Lowrrryyy
03-06-14, 06:40 PM
Yeah there are at least 10 falcons on gumtree within 50klm's for less than $500. Won't need key or barrel.

Sketchy way ahead of you mate. Already have silver,red,white and blue rattle cans.

ahabthearab
03-06-14, 08:32 PM
This is the best fucking idea since twist top stubbies.

AAA++++++ Will fap again


Get PF717 to Newcastle ASAP

Ben.
03-06-14, 08:50 PM
Could you dig up a cheap 304 vn of v8 soarer in a reasonable budget? Not trying to throw you off the falcon thing, just been curious since seeing the red steak what would happen with a couple of extra cylinders.

ALLMTR
03-06-14, 09:15 PM
J pipe or log?

Jim
03-06-14, 09:16 PM
seems au is lighter than EL. wouldn't have picked that!

Potsy
03-06-14, 09:33 PM
AU1, 2 or 3 ?

Crash Dummy
03-06-14, 09:39 PM
I've got AU intake manifolds, fuel rail, throttle body and stock exhaust manifold. Possibly still a AU engine harness too.
That might be useful.

Potsy
03-06-14, 10:00 PM
Is BlownHemi covering this ?

Mike Lowrrryyy
03-06-14, 10:02 PM
Could you dig up a cheap 304 vn of v8 soarer in a reasonable budget? Not trying to throw you off the falcon thing, just been curious since seeing the red steak what would happen with a couple of extra cylinders.

Because running coons can be had for $250. Not so much 304 VN's or SC400's.

Sketchy
03-06-14, 10:41 PM
Yeah there are at least 10 falcons on gumtree within 50klm's for less than $500. Won't need key or barrel.

Sketchy way ahead of you mate. Already have silver,red,white and blue rattle cans.

Sick to the power of rad. Let's get retarded in here like will.i.am

JESUS CHRIST
04-06-14, 08:03 AM
Do it. It's a dismal cunt of thing that would be better served as a gutted cheapshit drag car than the unfunny joke it is now. I would much rather see it go from 20 second quarters to 10's than sitting in a yard for weeks at a time while people complain about driving it on the Internet.

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This ^^^

Mike Lowrrryyy
04-06-14, 03:44 PM
In the time it takes to get here we could of built,run and set fire to another Falcon. I'd rather just get shit done than fuck around like old Nanna's worrying about shit the not one single person gives a fuck about.
717 would be good but I don't want to wait and see if it ever gets here.

Jim and I have a project scope meeting today at the pub so we have a plan of who is doing what around the important stuff like what beer to drink etc. After that we might talk about falcons for 5 minutes.

Sketchy
04-06-14, 03:56 PM
Where is the shit box now? It's still in NSW as far as I remember. Some cunt just drive it to Newcastle over the long weekend.

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ALLMTR
04-06-14, 04:27 PM
If you don't hack the fuck out of it (I know its the PF way) you might be able to turn a profit in the end. A street able 11.9 second turbo falcon might be worth $5-6k as opposed to the $1-1.5k a hacked to shit 11.6 second one would be worth

$200

http://imageshack.com/a/img837/9211/3tgl.jpg

Mike Lowrrryyy
04-06-14, 05:02 PM
I'm and I'm saying we when I say I'm going to hack the fuck out of it. No interest in turning a profit but after we are done I might move the shit over to a sleeper spec shitbox.

LOL has that pile of falcon even got wheels on it?

ALLMTR
04-06-14, 06:39 PM
No, but wheels come with it haha

Jim
05-06-14, 07:19 AM
$100 and he can keep the mirrors, interior and floor mats :P

Mike Lowrrryyy
05-06-14, 08:24 AM
What Jim said.

ALLMTR
06-06-14, 03:00 PM
Went back today to negotiate but it has become vultured

Stix Zadinia
06-06-14, 03:01 PM
where was/is it?

ALLMTR
06-06-14, 03:04 PM
My mate owns a wrecking yard

Stix Zadinia
06-06-14, 03:06 PM
mine too, which is why I was asking

Jim
06-06-14, 03:46 PM
Went back today to negotiate but it has become vultured

Kind of why we werent jumping at it. Chances of it not missing something vital by the time we got to pick it up was always pretty low I recon.

Crash Dummy
06-06-14, 04:44 PM
If I can help with picking this turd up i'm raising my hand.

ALLMTR
06-06-14, 06:27 PM
He's going to keep a look out for something suitable. It can be parked away from the public if he finds one

Jim
06-06-14, 06:40 PM
That does sound mega helpful. Thanks heaps!

Crash Dummy
06-06-14, 07:02 PM
Allmtr. That sounds like a good plan. Better probably a whole bunch safer than going with the AU PF wagon.

Jim
09-06-14, 08:17 PM
well, we have made no effort, and surprisingly a suitable car has failed to materialise. yet. We shall keep not working away at this plan.

Mike Lowrrryyy
09-06-14, 08:53 PM
I'm going to keep doing other things with my weekends until I do something else.

Greg Rust
09-06-14, 09:01 PM
Went for a spin in turbo EF on Sat. They go hard.

no13b_Coupe
09-06-14, 11:15 PM
Just got a message from a mate of mine.
He has a currently registered ef auto sedan he bought then worked out he has no room for.

$500 are u keen?
It's in Canberra. I can pass on his details if you like.
I have no idea on the details other than Falcon and auto and it's registered.

Sorry about the vague details

Fondles
09-06-14, 11:58 PM
Surely It would be a < $100 air ticket to fly and pickup the PF Wagon if it cannot be delivered.......

Greg Rust
10-06-14, 09:24 AM
I wouldn't use a wagon if you want to have any decent chance at <11s

Leaf those springs alone.

Sketchy
10-06-14, 09:44 AM
well, we have made no effort, and surprisingly a suitable car has failed to materialise. yet. We shall keep not working away at this plan.
http://img.pandawhale.com/87665-weve-tried-nothing-and-were-al-zKFJ.png

Shifty
10-06-14, 10:13 AM
I don't see that the cost to go and get something, should be included eg. You don't count your fuel to Autobarn.

Free wagons for all!

Jim
10-06-14, 01:40 PM
Its more to do with we are both doing 15 hr days for our jobs right now and anything that requires large blocks of time is not doable right now.
can slip out and grab a local car bjt trips to canberra etc are probably going to be out for the next month or two

big_pete
10-06-14, 01:42 PM
Could you go an XE falcoon with XR6 running gear? or too costly?

Jim
10-06-14, 02:06 PM
Time and effort to swap it in is the issue.
while we Get Shit Done this is despite inherent laziness.

Mike Lowrrryyy
10-06-14, 04:14 PM
I'm going to stick to our tried and true method of laziest power adder we can dodgy up and the most weight we can hack out.
The getting the car is easy. Dredging stuff like cheap slicks and front runners is the hard bit. As I've said I have a fair chunk of turbo shit floating around the shed so that side of things is covered.

ALLMTR
10-06-14, 04:15 PM
Ed wagon on gas $200

Jim
10-06-14, 06:10 PM
Arent the wagons leaf spring?
I dont understand leaf springs.

BreaksMyWallet
10-06-14, 06:36 PM
Seems the tone of the thread has changed slightly since a page or two back :)


We do have a reputation of getting shit done here in Newcastle.


In the time it takes to get here we could of built,run and set fire to another Falcon. I'd rather just get shit done than fuck around like old Nanna's worrying about shit the not one single person gives a fuck about.

/armchair heckling

Hope whetever happens ends with a quick 1/4 or impressive fireball

no13b_Coupe
10-06-14, 08:02 PM
Just got a message from a mate of mine.
He has a currently registered ef auto sedan he bought then worked out he has no room for.

$500 are u keen?
It's in Canberra. I can pass on his details if you like.
I have no idea on the details other than Falcon and auto and it's registered.

Sorry about the vague details

$400 if goes this week apparently.
Could be you!

Potsy
10-06-14, 08:11 PM
FFS, if you need someone to deliver the coon to Newy, i'm sure some cunts here could arrange.
Links/Pic of $400 Fowlcan ?

Mike Lowrrryyy
10-06-14, 08:42 PM
Yeah I'd pay the $400 if some kent can get it.

Pics?

Greg Rust
10-06-14, 09:25 PM
Arent the wagons leaf spring?
I dont understand leaf springs.

Yes they are and you don't want them if you want to go dragon racing.

no13b_Coupe
10-06-14, 10:11 PM
Yeah I'd pay the $400 if some kent can get it.

Pics?
Will go around tomorrow and grab some.

Potsy
11-06-14, 08:29 PM
And then ?

Jim
11-06-14, 09:12 PM
http://img.pandawhale.com/87665-weve-tried-nothing-and-were-al-zKFJ.png

Potsy
11-06-14, 09:16 PM
Fucks sake, lets try something different like a Magna 3.5l.

ALLMTR
11-06-14, 09:30 PM
What are your negotiating skills like?

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-andrews/cars-vans-utes/daihatsu-feroza-253-v8-burnout-car/1048037483

no13b_Coupe
11-06-14, 10:26 PM
Sorry guys I didn't get around to seeing him this afternoon. (didn't get home till about 8 tonight)

Will go after work tomorrow and post up here :(

Mike Lowrrryyy
12-06-14, 10:07 AM
All good man. Ask how much rego. Might be albe to get someone to bring it up on scotch night.

no13b_Coupe
12-06-14, 01:20 PM
As far as I remember it's got 3months ACT.

no13b_Coupe
12-06-14, 01:36 PM
Fuck guys really sorry.

Me: "Hey man the fellas want to sus out the falcon I'll come down later and grab some pics"

Old mate: "Yeah dude no worries. Falcon gone but yellow car here"

Me: "Oh these fellas were keen did you sell it or just moved it"

Old mate: "Like I said I needed it gone that night so I could bring this other car home" (I rang him Tuesday to tell him I was coming)

Me: "Oh that's fucking annoying"

Odds are on he sent it to the wreckers or it's dumped somewhere.
That and this yellow thing will probably end up cut up or the same place.

Again sorry guys :(
I'll keep my ear out for more.

Mike Lowrrryyy
12-06-14, 03:08 PM
All good. No super rush to get a car. Right now we a looking for parts to make fasts. The vessel for these parts is the least important thing..

Jim
12-06-14, 08:34 PM
Thanks anyway mate, its all good!

Lurch
16-06-14, 12:28 PM
As I've mentioned to Jim recently, I'm happy to donate these to the cause.
They've done one (maybe 2) passes at Calder a few years ago - they'll be pretty hard but may come good after a run or two...?

Size is: 26.5 / 8.0 - 15 S

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q81/s720x720/10455407_333641773453870_6021094056165580785_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q85/s720x720/10372544_333641813453866_534123969054342799_n.jpg

Jim
16-06-14, 02:57 PM
Sounds good mate. At worst we can set up with them.
ill give you a call tomorrow.

Mike Lowrrryyy
16-06-14, 08:19 PM
Well we made zero effort and a free EF has tuned up. A good mate of mine said I can have it for nothing but I want to give him a couple of bucks or some beer for it. Where do we stand on this? Car in exchange for FY?

Jim
16-06-14, 08:22 PM
Shit man that means we need to do stuff now

Jim
16-06-14, 08:26 PM
Anyone at taree that can pick up a manifold for us?

ALLMTR
16-06-14, 08:26 PM
Well I could have got one (when one became avail) for $200 and a falcon is worth about $220 in scrap metal.

Mike Lowrrryyy
16-06-14, 09:13 PM
Needs a headgasket so scrap value tops.

Edit. Just got off the phone and he won't take $200 from me. He will however take two cases of Fat Yak. How much is that $100?

Edit 2. Yep $52 bucks a case. https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_325108/matilda-bay-fat-yak-pale-ale

Spend so far $105.

I'm DJ!
16-06-14, 09:35 PM
Great start

ALLMTR
16-06-14, 09:42 PM
What else are you after?

Jim
16-06-14, 09:43 PM
we have budgeted 4 fat yak cases so we should make sure we use up the budget. it is nearly EOFY after all

Jim
16-06-14, 09:49 PM
Chuck,
a pair of 15x4 rims, and a pair of 15x8 rims.
also an XR6-T exhaust manifold and a stall converter.

Mike Lowrrryyy
16-06-14, 10:07 PM
May have the 15x8's sorted. It has alloys on it now of some kind that looked like 15's in the dark.

ALLMTR
16-06-14, 10:10 PM
Chuck,
a pair of 15x4 rims, and a pair of 15x8 rims.
also an XR6-T exhaust manifold and a stall converter.

A BA exhaust manifold???

Mike Lowrrryyy
16-06-14, 11:28 PM
Yep.
Quick google leads me to this..

I think what people don't realise is that the b series manifolds are cast steel, as opposed to iron. Making them much easier to work with, and much more viable for conversions. The average ghetto conversion star (ie: 'steam' pipe welded to e series iron manifold) could weld a new flange on to the b series manifold and be twice as effective and twice as reliable. The b series log potential is under estimated.

Jim
17-06-14, 06:38 AM
ahh, i thought they were interchangable. They aren't. Never mind, we'll just braise onto the stock EF exhaust.

Mike Lowrrryyy
17-06-14, 09:14 AM
Maybe we can flip the stock manifold around so we can then make a J pipe like 930 headers?

Motherfucker Jones
17-06-14, 10:25 AM
Fairly sure you could J pipe the manifold in standard orientation, other than steering shaft there's not much happening over that side.

Kinda keen to have a crack at this myself… see what happens though lol

Greg Rust
17-06-14, 10:25 AM
Mmm braised manifold

Crash Dummy
17-06-14, 12:51 PM
Can't flip the manifold as it'll want to make love to the power steering pump.

I've got a spare exhaust manifold incase you screw it up :)

Jim
17-06-14, 01:18 PM
Awesome Gary I'll do that!
Swap you a gear rack :lol:

jellis
17-06-14, 01:19 PM
Anyone at taree that can pick up a manifold for us?

I'm coming back from Port Macquarie to Sydney on Sunday, could swing by taree and newy if needed.

Mike Lowrrryyy
17-06-14, 03:23 PM
Can't flip the manifold as it'll want to make love to the power steering pump.

I've got a spare exhaust manifold incase you screw it up :)

Power steering pump? That fucking shit will just go in the bin then. It's dead weight and I don't have time fo that!

Crash Dummy
17-06-14, 04:08 PM
I thought power steering might be handy for 11's later on the doughnut pad. :D

Jim. I'm feeling so generous I'll let you have the manifolds for free. No shit.

StupidFlanders
17-06-14, 06:29 PM
If you need 15in front runner rims, the Mazda 3 space saver could work. They are the only 15in i could find in 5x114.3 stud pattern. Dont know how wide they are though, most space savers are 4in.
Here's one on Scumtree-http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/scarborough/wheels-tyres-rims/mazda-3-space-saver-spare-wheel/1049038094

There's a few on ebay too. A bit expensive relative to the rest of the car, may be able to find some cheaper if you look.

If you wanted to go 16x4in there's about 5 billion Skyline/Silvia space savers on ebay.

ALLMTR
17-06-14, 06:32 PM
They won't let you race with space savers

StupidFlanders
17-06-14, 06:50 PM
But if you just used the rims with proper front runner tyres?
Obviously you wouldnt use the actual space saver tyre, i get why the wouldnt allow that. I wouldnt trust those tyres on my wheelbarrow.

ALLMTR
17-06-14, 08:03 PM
Get an ED intake manifold, it'll make piping much easier

Jim
17-06-14, 08:56 PM
pretty sure i can get sunraysia 15x5 trailer rims for $60 ea.

Komdotkom
19-06-14, 09:57 AM
I've got one of those KKR turbo's you can have if you pay post. I'm pretty sure it's a KKR380 - T2 flange internal gate thing.
Condition unknown, but alleged to be new(ish).

Mike Lowrrryyy
19-06-14, 12:58 PM
Thanks man. I've got a china TO4e floating around the shed that I picked up with some other stuff as a job lot when I was building the turbo 911. If that fails you will be getting a pm lol.

Picking up the car at 6pm tomorrow.

Dogsballs
19-06-14, 01:09 PM
you could just run the 28 slick on a 15x6 stocko rim, 15x7 would be fine, 15x8 overkill

Mike Lowrrryyy
19-06-14, 04:20 PM
I'll run whatever wheel is on the car now!

Crash Dummy
20-06-14, 03:32 PM
Assuming it isn't a XR model there will be one major hurdle to leap and that is the speed limiter. 180km/h fuel cut. Above that speed the tailshaft gets a bit nasty.
I've got some ideas too on how to keep the box happy and shifting without flaring.

Jim
20-06-14, 03:47 PM
The ecu seems to be tuneable so hopefully we can get that sorted.

67rce
20-06-14, 03:53 PM
TI Performance J3. Or fit shit haltech/microleb etc from 300 years ago

ALLMTR
20-06-14, 03:55 PM
Screwdriver microleb for the w......hmmm, maybe not

Mike Lowrrryyy
20-06-14, 06:17 PM
I know Bab's has a Halteck E6K he said I could have before but the the fucking thing runs on DOS :lol:

MRMOPARMAN
20-06-14, 06:24 PM
Screwdriver microleb for the w......hmmm, maybe not

ive been looking for a screwdriver adjustable microleb on and off for fucking ages. they hardly ever come up and when they do cunts think they are worth $250-300!

Motherfucker Jones
20-06-14, 06:29 PM
Wait for it…







Draw through carby :D and if you want to make the news, put a front mount intercooler on it

ALLMTR
20-06-14, 08:49 PM
Yeah big 2" SU with an xf dizzy!

Crash Dummy
20-06-14, 11:36 PM
J3 chip is the go for go fasts if no farks are given about street driving tunability due to lack of resolution with the standard ECU. If I recall correctly I think you can run up to 7psi boost with the standard map sensor.

Mike Lowrrryyy
20-06-14, 11:46 PM
Looks like we are going to need another MAP sensor then...

Lobster
20-06-14, 11:50 PM
Pics?

Greg Rust
21-06-14, 08:26 AM
It just looks like a black sensor with a vacuum port on one side and an electrical connector.

Jim
21-06-14, 08:40 AM
no, pics are a collection of pixels arranged to form a pattern that can be transmitted and viewed via a telephone line. Usually of cats or large objects placed inside people. HTH

Mike Lowrrryyy
21-06-14, 08:59 AM
No you use pic's to help dig holes in hard ground. Like I did all last fucking weekend.

Potsy
21-06-14, 09:03 AM
Photos of offending shitpile not loading. Thxbye.

Motherfucker Jones
21-06-14, 09:05 AM
If Homer Simpson is anything to go by, you can also use pics to put speed holes in your falcon for extra fasts

Jim
21-06-14, 09:12 AM
geniouse!

9triton
21-06-14, 09:28 AM
how to confuse an irishman -
put him in a room full of shovels and tell him to take his pick

boom tish

Sketchy
21-06-14, 04:59 PM
I'm now flying down on Thursday if you need any assistance with this or just want me to skid test it.

Crash Dummy
21-06-14, 08:58 PM
Alright Uncle, If more boost is the answer, the question is how much ? I guess that answer is as much as the poor thing can hold inside without them becoming the outsides.
The hardest part with the EF Falcon is if you want to go with the aftermarket computer you still need the original one to run the auto box thanks to them being a fully electronic setup with 7 solenoids. That might be doable even with a stand alone computer for the engine but you still need to give it dummy loads so it thinks the engine operation parameters are normal.
A 2 bar MAP sensor and J3 chip should work well though with some big arse injectors.
The hardest part I guess is stopping the damn ECU from going into limp home mode any time it sees figures it doesn't like. One of them is stall speed. If it stalls too high it thinks the converter is slipping and goes into limp home mode apparently.

Agh. Too much shit to give a damn about atm. They still can go pretty effing fast without even looking at any of this stuff. This is me just being me and making shit overly complicated.

67rce
21-06-14, 09:48 PM
9psi + 12:1 rising rate reg + high pressure pump capable of flowing enough fuel for 160+psi rail pressure = 13's.

J3 is only capable of providing tuning resolution to 10psi.

ALLMTR
21-06-14, 09:55 PM
9psi + 12:1 rising rate reg + high pressure pump capable of flowing enough fuel for 160+psi rail pressure = 13's.

J3 is only capable of providing tuning resolution to 10psi.

So two J3's should handle 20psi

Crash Dummy
21-06-14, 10:02 PM
Okay so using the ECU options available, what about if it were configured so the standard ECU still does most of the work, but set the aftermarket one to drive a secondary set of injectors and control ignition timing. Just the old fashion way I guess. No need for funky fuel pressure regs or anything too fancy.

crack
21-06-14, 10:09 PM
That is were interceptors come into their own but isn't it? And a second hand interceptor is SFA.

Jim
22-06-14, 07:30 AM
My thought was to run some extra injectors metered off a separate map sensor. Completely standalone and refereced off boost pressure.

Crash Dummy
22-06-14, 09:07 AM
Do you want a injector rail Jim ?

MRMOPARMAN
22-06-14, 09:15 AM
Hose tail injectors like vl ones would be perfect for that.

Jim
22-06-14, 10:01 AM
Gary, yes that would be awesome!

Billzilla
22-06-14, 10:13 AM
ive been looking for a screwdriver adjustable microleb on and off for fucking ages. they hardly ever come up and when they do cunts think they are worth $250-300!

Got a broken D4S here if you want. One of the injector drivers doesn't work but I guess it's not really fixable.

briney
22-06-14, 09:15 PM
probably a bit spendy, $250-odd, but the quarterhorse lets you real time tune these through the j3 port. burning chips eats dicks. hobbs switch, relay and another fuel rail bodged on? and the $5 resistor shift kit? also, a lot of the bush wear problems in the extension housing and tailshaft dramas are caused by low oil flow from a failed oil cooler. just fit an external one and it'll live longer(maybe.)

Sketchy
23-06-14, 09:03 AM
My thought was to run some extra injectors metered off a separate map sensor. Completely standalone and refereced off boost pressure.
I have a squillion year old setup for an e30 in the shed for exactly this. Will bring down and donate to the cause. Also have an early Capa flash tuner for Barra motors that I can't seem to give away so happy to donate that as well if it's of any use.

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Jim
23-06-14, 10:16 AM
Sketchy ftw!

Crash Dummy
24-06-14, 03:10 PM
Woohoo Sketchy!
Jim. Let me know where I need to take the parts to.

Jim
24-06-14, 07:10 PM
I can drop in for a visit on Saturday if you are about?

Crash Dummy
24-06-14, 08:25 PM
That's doable I believe :) I've got some goodies for you to pass onto uncle too if you'll see him before me.

Mike Lowrrryyy
25-06-14, 06:32 PM
Thanks chaps.

Just got home with the car.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/Martin_U/8454E60A-D7BC-4ED6-8F3B-88D4CFB6B235_zpsx2u9uikk.jpg

Mike Lowrrryyy
25-06-14, 06:34 PM
So I was just thinking. Snowy mountains 1000... I've entered the Gemballa but this can be changed.

Jim
25-06-14, 07:38 PM
Such falcon! Many car. So mags!

no13b_Coupe
25-06-14, 07:56 PM
Wow!


Looks like a decent base to start with.

Sketchy
25-06-14, 08:07 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/25/6e7adepa.jpg

Fear. You will feel it.

Greg Rust
25-06-14, 08:12 PM
What is that?

Edit: a carby?

Jim
25-06-14, 08:13 PM
it's a micro-bowser!

Crash Dummy
25-06-14, 09:00 PM
So I was just thinking. Snowy mountains 1000... I've entered the Gemballa but this can be changed.

Shall we lower and cut a paper thing sheet metal flat floor for this beast ? Oh and make eleventy billion kw of course ?
I think the battle with this sucker is going to be keeping the tailshaft in one piece past 200. Getting to 200 will be easy. Getting past that is the hard part.

Crash Dummy
25-06-14, 09:00 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/25/6e7adepa.jpg

Fear. You will feel it.

Sweet jesus, that thing looks like a slightly electronic version of a CV carburetor installed on a EFI engine.

Jim
25-06-14, 09:33 PM
I want to use that just for the lol factor

Crash Dummy
25-06-14, 09:49 PM
Even if it's only slightly better than a carburettor, so long as it can supply the fuel the engine wants it'll get the job for the task at hand. I say bring it on.

Jim
25-06-14, 10:20 PM
An intake full of fuel! What could go wrong! LOL

Crash Dummy
25-06-14, 10:35 PM
Couldn't be worse than a reverse facing wet nitrous fogger :p

Mike Lowrrryyy
25-06-14, 10:44 PM
I want to use that just for the lol factor

I'm mounting that mother fucker on the top of the dash!

Greg Rust
25-06-14, 10:49 PM
I've got a set of 3.45 gears if you need.

Sketchy
26-06-14, 06:07 AM
Don't hate. Appreciate.

It can run a v 12 no worries. Says so on the box.

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Mike Lowrrryyy
26-06-14, 01:33 PM
No hate here. We will mount it with screwdriver pride!

Crash Dummy
26-06-14, 01:43 PM
I predict smashed pistons on 1 and 6 due to poor fuel flow balance or all of them upon hitting the speed cut. Depends whether the piggy back uses the original injector pulse as a reference.

Mike Lowrrryyy
26-06-14, 05:23 PM
Ye of little faith.

lysdexia
26-06-14, 05:59 PM
Microcarby is awesome. i encourage and applaud it's use.

Crash Dummy
27-06-14, 10:46 AM
I'm still excited. I'm keen to swing some spanners. Lemme know when :)

Mike Lowrrryyy
13-07-14, 10:06 PM
Got a lot done this weekend. Jim moved the car from my place to his parents house.
I need to get some other jobs cleared then we will make a start.

Slides
20-07-14, 07:35 AM
Fuck, I have an unused but with slightly hacked up wastegate acutator turbo (some numpty trying to fit it somewhere in a bay) in storage with a ~53mm compressor inducer and a T04 based turbine wheel (ie 74mm inducer) with 56mm exducer that would be perfect for snappy response on this, T3 flange on the turbine housing, maybe a touch tighter than ideal for the 4L but it would come on early. I won't be back for 2 months however. If you blow up your garrett let me know. Keen to catch up and see the GB in the flesh too.

Tyrie
20-07-14, 10:05 AM
Need gate?

76124

kyle_b
20-07-14, 10:17 AM
Do these have a bw78 series diff? If so have a mini spool here for one.

Mike Lowrrryyy
20-07-14, 12:01 PM
Fuck, I have an unused but with slightly hacked up wastegate acutator turbo (some numpty trying to fit it somewhere in a bay) in storage with a ~53mm compressor inducer and a T04 based turbine wheel (ie 74mm inducer) with 56mm exducer that would be perfect for snappy response on this, T3 flange on the turbine housing, maybe a touch tighter than ideal for the 4L but it would come on early. I won't be back for 2 months however. If you blow up your garrett let me know. Keen to catch up and see the GB in the flesh too.
Sounds good and timings prolly good. We can have a beer and talk shit anyhow.


Need gate?

76124

Have a gate but NFI what brand or spring is in it. What the story with that gate mate?


Do these have a bw78 series diff? If so have a mini spool here for one.

NFI I have no care for EF's so cant tell you. If it is that would be tops mate.

Jim
20-07-14, 01:07 PM
Yeah 78 bw diff. Mini spool would be awesome!

Tyrie
20-07-14, 05:22 PM
Have a gate but NFI what brand or spring is in it. What the story with that gate mate?


Same deal. It's a china 40mm that came welded to my t04z. Free if you need it.

Jim
23-07-14, 04:32 PM
Not too bad for what it is but it is still ugly.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x289/SpamDragon/LOLcoon/DSC_0092_zpscz49gkde.jpg (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/SpamDragon/media/LOLcoon/DSC_0092_zpscz49gkde.jpg.html)
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x289/SpamDragon/LOLcoon/DSC_0094_zpsmi0g73nr.jpg (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/SpamDragon/media/LOLcoon/DSC_0094_zpsmi0g73nr.jpg.html)
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x289/SpamDragon/LOLcoon/DSC_0099_zpsmgiegqaj.jpg (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/SpamDragon/media/LOLcoon/DSC_0099_zpsmgiegqaj.jpg.html)

GSRman
23-07-14, 04:40 PM
if you don't mind some Y pipes - I have a cooler (double entry/exit)

if you CBF with that - I have a bigger one that might not fit behind the grille.

Jim
23-07-14, 04:44 PM
Sounds good for either way mate!

BHQ
24-07-14, 01:36 AM
Honestly, pretty damn impressed with your results with a $1300 car..don't think I could ever do this

Greg Rust
24-07-14, 08:47 AM
Ohh XR6 inserts.

GSRman
24-07-14, 09:34 AM
Sounds good for either way mate!

I'll chuck a tape over them and you can pick - and we'll work out how to get them from me to you.

Mike Lowrrryyy
24-07-14, 07:41 PM
I just bought another Porsche from the ACT so should be able to pick up.

ALLMTR
24-07-14, 07:48 PM
Wahoo 930!!!

GSRman
25-07-14, 08:29 AM
that might limit your selection :P

but SWEET!

Mike Lowrrryyy
25-07-14, 11:35 AM
Would it work on a 930? :p

rowdytoot
25-07-14, 12:06 PM
I just bought another Porsche from the ACT so should be able to pick up.
Lettuce know when you're headed down :)

Mike Lowrrryyy
25-07-14, 12:47 PM
It will be a splash and dash one day trip but ok will do my best.

GSRman
26-07-14, 02:55 PM
Ok lil one is 280x570x75 core tanks n outlets make it 760 long

Big one is 530x835x70 tanks make it 1090 x250 deep




76323

Potsy
26-07-14, 04:13 PM
Want an OEM Volvo 740 Turbo intercooler for free ?

Jim
27-07-14, 08:56 PM
i think at this stage I'll say yes to any donations or cheap things for this project!

gti6
28-07-14, 06:23 PM
If Uncle wants to hoon down the Clyde mountain and go home via the coast road in his Porsche, there's a brand new ebay 450x300x75 cooler here doing nothing I'll donate to the project if GSRman's ones aren't suitable. It would use more fuel than a courier, but there's some good road!

GSRman
29-07-14, 07:33 AM
it's raining coolers!

gti6
30-07-14, 06:02 AM
LOL. If they're not big enough, run them all in series!

ALLMTR
30-07-14, 06:42 PM
Or even parallel...

GSRman
31-07-14, 11:30 AM
aint nothing flowing nowhere else if the biggun is in the loop :P

Jim
31-07-14, 08:44 PM
We'll take anything at this point and then work out what's best.
I'll be doing some work on this on the 10th if anyone's available to give me a hand.

Crash Dummy
02-08-14, 10:17 PM
Jim, I've got a family thing to do on the 10th but if you're working into the afternoon I can be there to give you a hand. The family thingo finishes at 1pm.

Jim
09-08-14, 04:05 PM
Finally got to look at this thing and it turns out it has a broken timing slide. Not sure I cbf'd to pull the front pulley and cover off. Anyone got another falcon? lol

Crash Dummy
09-08-14, 04:27 PM
Can't we pick up another engine for scrap value ?

Jim
09-08-14, 04:34 PM
can we be bothered to change an engine?

Crash Dummy
09-08-14, 04:44 PM
Good point. Moo V6's are easy, Ford 6's a huge PITA without a hoist the drop it out.

Greg Rust
09-08-14, 05:23 PM
Changing a long motor in a EF Falcon used to take me 7.6hours, didn't need a hoist either.

but yea pulling the front cover is a shit job dealing with the sump gasket.

Crash Dummy
09-08-14, 06:41 PM
Yeah, finding another falcon is sounding like a better plan atm.

Jim
09-08-14, 11:02 PM
May still do it. My enthusiasm is low when my time could be spent using the car

Motherfucker Jones
09-08-14, 11:24 PM
Just think of it as poor mans vtec… yo.

Jim
10-08-14, 07:58 PM
Do these need a puller to get the balancer off?

ALLMTR
11-08-14, 12:06 AM
Yep

Jim
11-08-14, 04:32 PM
Alright. So back on track.
I need to source a stall converter and a turbo.

Mike Lowrrryyy
11-08-14, 06:18 PM
I has turbo alreadys.

Jim
11-08-14, 08:04 PM
Sweet. Just a stall and some tyres then!

Crash Dummy
12-08-14, 08:19 PM
Reckon it'll make any boost by 2000rpm ? if so you might be able to make do with the standard converter.

Mike Lowrrryyy
13-08-14, 08:32 PM
Nup 3,500 would be the aim I think.

kedderz
20-08-14, 09:13 PM
check out this beast for inspiration

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/6e0AAOSwd4tT8cjl/$_20.JPG

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/city/cars-vans-utes/turbo-ford-falcon/1054586807

Jim
20-08-14, 09:34 PM
Seamless install!

Mister Black
20-08-14, 09:50 PM
Klampy?

Crash Dummy
21-08-14, 07:06 PM
What a sleeper! I would never have known it had a turbo.

ALLMTR
21-08-14, 09:46 PM
So a $200 car with a $200 turbo and a couple of other $50 eBay bits = $4000???

Jim
24-08-14, 01:04 PM
So here's LOLcoon MkII.
First one needs a few things and I gots no time. This one turned up with "wiring problems" which turned out to be the fact he changed the ignition barrel with one that didn't fall apart and didn't program the new key mto the smartlock. His local auto elecy clearly didn't want anything to do with it and told him the wiring was stuffed and it might be the ECU and it may have wild tigers carrying Ebola virus in it.

So after charging the battery and leaving the ignition on for 40 minutes it started first go.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x289/SpamDragon/DSC_0167_zps0c81f2ef.jpg (http://s183.photobucket.com/user/SpamDragon/media/DSC_0167_zps0c81f2ef.jpg.html)

Potsy
24-08-14, 01:27 PM
eewwwh, boot spoiler !

big_pete
24-08-14, 02:00 PM
https://warosu.org/data/cgl/img/0075/10/1398620822679.jpg

JESUS CHRIST
24-08-14, 03:04 PM
eewwwh, boot spoiler !

For traction at half track!

Jim
24-08-14, 07:24 PM
Boot spoiler is vital. (It's hiding a rust hole)

Potsy
24-08-14, 08:01 PM
Did PF-717 become a parts donor for this or is it still in Vic somewhere ?

Crash Dummy
24-08-14, 08:38 PM
Very nice upgrade Jim. A much better choice of machine. One that works. That is a very much improved foundation.
Keep the other shit heap handy for now if you can. We can still use it. I'll talk to you more about it later.

Jim
24-08-14, 09:54 PM
i will fix the other one eventually when I have a bit more time. a timing kit isn't spendy.

ALLMTR
24-08-14, 10:19 PM
What condition is the first one in?

Jim
25-08-14, 06:00 AM
Solidified? Static?

MRMOPARMAN
25-08-14, 07:31 AM
Sounds like you need an au coon with xr6 motor for parts..

Goin cheap ;)

Jim
25-08-14, 07:56 AM
When can you drop it over? I have beers and a place to crash :p

MRMOPARMAN
25-08-14, 07:17 PM
May next year!

Im hoping its wrecked out or bushbashed and burnt before then though

Jim
26-08-14, 06:46 AM
Hey, if it becomes a trailer queen and does some events then all the better.
Can it be re registered?

MRMOPARMAN
26-08-14, 07:55 AM
It would require some money spent on it.
I think it would be cheaper to start the process all over again with another ebay shitter, just from vic or sa so we can just keep on registering it.

308hjute
26-08-14, 08:13 AM
Rego's up on it today isn't it?

Any chance you can send the plates up so I can hand them in and submit a notice of disposal?

no13b_Coupe
24-09-14, 03:49 PM
Clears throat.

Updates?

Sketchy
25-09-14, 09:52 AM
This. Hurry up Uncle Jim.

Do I need to come down and drink your scotch, berate you and sticky tape microtech to stuff to call it done?

Jim
25-09-14, 10:28 AM
I think that may be exactly what is needed.
The car is running and complete, we have a box of stuff ready to go onto it, but no time to do anything.

no13b_Coupe
25-09-14, 11:21 AM
Im up there this weekend if you need anything brought up?

I'd offer to swing spanners but unsure if I'll have the time :(

Slides
01-10-14, 10:01 AM
You blokes still want that turbo I have?

Jim
01-10-14, 11:59 AM
wont say no! pm me some details?