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    Henrob welding torch

    Has anyone used one of these?
    Is it as good as the ad says?

    www.amweld.com.au

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    Id like some info aswell.. they certainly get some rave reviews on that site.

    Its a well marketed product thats for sure.

    How much are they? I'd buy one.

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    I am sure that that has been around for years possibly under the same name I knew a site that had an old aritlce about them but its down at the moment.
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    this has got me interested, i have sent an email to the distributor re: price etc, and after some googling:

    it was originally called something else, and was invented by an australian who originally had it made in switzerland and then sold the rights to the US of A.

    seems like a pretty good thing, from what i would judge to be unaffiliated sites say about it.

    if the price is right, i think ill get one and can the TIG idea

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    Just wanted to join this thread as very interested on price

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    bump, i mean

    hey joel, how are ya? did that glovebox fit in?

    ill post up a price as soon as/if they send me one.
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    Mate it's all good! Thanks again for that and sorry to stuff ya around not being there on the right day.

    Talk to you shortly

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    Used to be called 'Dillon', was designed by an Australian but nobody wanted to make it here so he went OS.

    I bought one 17-18 yrs ago, works nicely for an oxy torch. Torch is a bit on the heavy side. Will teach myself how to weld aluminium one day when I can find the right goggles & flux.

    Not as easy to use or as quick as a mig, but easier than other oxy torches.

    I'd buy a mig first if I had to choose.
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    I'd go along with Hamish. Handpiece is heavy but works well as long as access is ok. Welding ali with gas is tricky even with this torch. I have seen it done but it is beyond me. For steel I'd go an tig/stick inverter at $750 for the fine stuff.
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    welding aluminium is tricky with it eh? might have to get a TIG after all.

    I really need to start researching which one i need.

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    Tig welding ali is beautiful (admittedly I had someone set up the set) BUT you need BIG power and expensive TIG...tough trading post have bits at times.
    Having said all that, my G'father was a coach buildre with a limo firm in the UK and they gas welded all the ali as does a couple of restorers I know. The weld is 'softer' and more maliable
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    Yeah tried one of those it is bloody usless $650 down the drain !!
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    haha, at last some straight advice.

    not dissing your welding ability here, but was it a skill related problem? can you oxy weld?

    how long did you try to get it to work?

    do you still have it?

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    I asked Micky-B from these forums about one a while ago (via e-mail) and I've still got his response:

    However the Henrob is a far superior setup. I went to TAFE for a year to obtain a welding certificate. A student brought his Henrob setup in as the teacher had never heard of one before. Anyway we peformed some tests Henrob vs Tigweld Vs Comet and the Henrob came up trumps in the best value for money (Considering running costs/materials etc) and could perform on par with the Tigweld for alluminium welding as well as stainless steel and general cutting / gouging.

    Personally having been involved in the testing and seeing the Henrob in action I would highly reccomend one.
    In a nutshell they use an eighth of the gas compared to a general
    Oxy/Acetalyne setup and produce a direct/accurate heatsource ideal for fiddly jobs, such as Intercooler/pipe welding and can do anything a normal Oxy/Acetalyne system can plus more.
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    ok, reply form email got. i'm still thinking about this system a bit.

    (reformatted a bit, and fixed some spelling. if this sort of post is not allowed, i apoligise to any mods out there)

    Q 1. Would a TIG welder be better in any way?(as far as
    i can imagine, TIG may be more suited to
    thicker/heavier work )

    A. The Henrob will do the thicker work, but would need to be pre-heated, where as a TIG would start much faster/quicker, but once started they are about the same speed. The Henrob specialises in its control and lack of distortion in fine work where in some cases especially in very thin material it will beat a TIG.
    Also oxy welding is much more pliable than electric, so would not tend to re-crack with vibration.


    Q 2. The price of the kit, or a price list. I found a
    price somewhere else, but it is in USDollars.

    A. See below

    AMERICAN WELDING DISTRIBUTORS PTY. LTD.

    ACN 063455416 ABN 57 063 455 416

    Thank you for your enquiry, you will be very interested in our website at www.amweld.com.au where you will see colour photo's of welds, test results and testimonials from users. We have been marketing the torch for the past 12 years and have yet to find anything to do the same work, even at 10 times the cost.

    We are currently offering a special price on the HENROB torch kit of $599.00 + $59.90 GST + $27.50 Freight & Insurance = $686.40 (normal retail $768.90 plus freight) .

    ****All offers valid for 2 weeks or while current shipment in stock****

    The Henrob Welder fits onto Standard Hoses and Regulators

    The torch kit includes:- 4 x welding tips (these cover the whole range from aluminium drink cans to half inch steel) 1 x cutting tip, 1 x panel steel cutting attachment, 1 x plate steel cutting attachment, guide wheels, 1 x air-acetylene tip for soldering etc, tip cleaners, wrench, instruction book, check valves, heat shield.

    When comparing with other welders it is important to note that the torch is used extensively by professional welders and panel beaters who claim the torch is far superior to $4000 plus MIG'S. As the HENROB is superb in thin materials such as car panels, aluminium, stainless etc., it is strongly suggested that if you are considering purchasing one of the 'Home Handyman" type MIG'S for around $500 - $700 that you ask for references of people that use them successfully.

    Torches are freighted via Aust Post the following ways:-A) Registered & Insured at a cost of $27.50

    B) C.O.D. via Australia Post which will cost approx. $28.00 for the postage and you can pick it up and pay for it at the Post Office

    C) We also freight with Australian Air Express for next weekday day delivery For this service Please notify us within 5 working days if you have not received your order as this makes tracing the parcel easier and keeps our/yours freight insurance claim valid.

    We accept Bank Card, Master Card, Visa or Cheque, you can also Lay-by the torch and pay for it over a three month time-frame.

    Due to currency fluctuations and ever increasing costs of freighting the units from the U.S.A.

    we suggest that this is an ideal time to purchase a kit as we cannot guarantee this price will not increase in the near future.

    We also now stock Regulators, Hoses and Full Face shade 5 Oxy Welding Visors complete with Head Harness. The Welding Visors are similar to the one being worn in the Demonstration Video and are much more comfortable than the normal welding goggles, also if you need to wear glasses you will find the Full Face Visor much more convenient. These high quality Regulators have a one year guarantee and work superbly with the torch.

    If you any further questions please contact American Welding Distributors Ph. (03) 5426 4434 Fax (03) 5426 4456 Mobile 0419 373 598

    Henrob 2000 Torch Kit (save $100) $599.00 + $59.90 GST = $658.90

    Oxygen Regulator $125.00 + $12.50 GST = $137.50

    Acetylene Regulator $125.00 + $12.50 GST = $137.50 Hoses Pair (5 Meters) $ 45.00 + $ 4.50 GST = $ 49.50

    Flip-Up Full Face Oxy Welding Visor $ 45.00 + $ 4.50 GST = $ 49.50

    Flint Lighter $ 5.00 + $ .50 GST = $ 5.50

    Video (when purchased with torch) $ 10.00 + $ 1.00 GST = $ 11.00

    *Note all above prices exclude freight, please contact us regarding freight on individual items, such as the mask as they do not weigh very much*

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPECIAL PACKAGE OFFER

    COMPLETE KIT $999.00

    Torch Kit, Hoses & Regulators, Welding Mask, Lighter,Video, ** Freight** & GST

    **Freight** - All N.T. W.A. and Qld Customers please add extra S25.00

    SAVE $185.00 OFF NORMAL PRICE USUAL PRICE APPROX $1186.00 INCL FREIGHT & INSURANCE



    So there you go, a price. i don't know if you "need" to buy their oxy and acetylene regulators (if they are any different from standard ones), maybeye they sell them so you can get set up fully without having any existing gear besides bottles.

    i still want to hear first hand from someone who uses one
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    found the article but its really just another advertisment

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    My brother-in-law is a pretty good welder with both MIG and Oxy. He bought a Henrob and took a long time to get used to it, but swears that once you are used to it, it is a really nice way to weld up stuff.

    I have seen a guy weld up some aluminium sheet that was less than 1mm thick with a Henrob with a beautiful neat bead. At that level it is really all about skill level. The torch is capable, but not everyone who tries to use it is (either never will be or needs more practice.) I'm sure that I would be better off with a TIG, but then I can't weld properly anyway

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    Gas welding aluminium is extremely difficult, but it can be done. It can even be done very well by a well practiced expert.

    The problem is that you have to apply a lot of heat, that rapidly spreads away from the seam you are welding. Also the aluminium does not change colour with heat, it just suddenly collapses into a great hole. Gas welding steel is easy because it gets red hot, then the easily seen puddle forms, and away you go.

    So saying that someone can lay a perfect aluminium bead with an oxy welder of any type is something to be very proud of.

    For the home mechanic that just wants to be able to oxy weld aluminium a few times a year, you will never gain either the skill, or the practice to develop that skill.

    For most of us it is either pay someone else to weld it, or cough up the dollars and buy a decent tig. Trying to do it on the cheap with an oxy is quite likely going to lead to a lot of stuffed up jobs.
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    I agree with Warpspeed I tried one and I have to admit I didn't give it much of a go as I didn't have the time to practice day after day to get it right , The TIG is much easer to use but a lot more expensive .
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    I bit the bullet and ordered one last week, it arrived last night and looks to be a nice kit.

    I've got to sort out some bottles tonight so I can give this thing a go...
    Imagination is more important than knowledge.

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    hey, i remember this thread!

    good luck with it ben, keep us posted, i expect to see photos of a coke can welded to a beer can!

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    Got it fired up last night - Bear in mind I haven't picked up an oxy in about 5 years, so I'm starting off slowly. Within about an hour, I was able to put down some decent beads, and the're getting better. I'm planning on walking before I try to run with this one, so I'm going to wait a while before I try my hand at aluiminium..

    Just as a straight oxy welder, it is a nice thing, the hand piece is a little heavy and seems tracnge to use, but, it does put out a nice localised heat which seems very easy to control. The low pressure also makes it very hard to accidently blow through the panel.
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    I decided to try some aluminium today - Not easy at all.

    I wound up hurling a few bits of metal around the shed in frustration, but, after a couple of hours I think I'm starting to get the hang of it. Well - I can run an almost acceptable bead across a flat sheet, but, it's a start. Very strange technique needed for aluminium......
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    He he, the good old 'throwing things around in frustration' technique. Works every time.
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