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    Well done on the time mate. Track was not too grippy on the weekend either.

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    I heard a few people saying it wasn't a grippy track this weekend. But it felt grippier than last time I was out in May, though I only got 5 laps in before the car shat itself.

    How did you go yesterday?

    Immediate plans are to remove the engine fan. Then it is cage, stripping, putting the new masters and adjustable bias on it, bigger exhaust and tidying the wiring.
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    You should turbo it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    How did you go yesterday?
    Not too bad, I'll send you an email.

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    After an injector stuck open (and caused as yet unknown damage to the motor) at Leyburn in August the car has been off the road.

    Definately has a blown head gasket, may have hydraulic'd and bent a rod. Can not get it to run on 4 cylinders even since the injector was replaced, has fuel, has spark...has not much coolant...

    Anyway, this has given me an excuse to go to the next stage of the build. Finally got off my ass and stripped the interior out. In the next couple of weeks I'll do the dry ice trick for the deadner. This is in preperation for a full welded in cage.

    It's amazing how much shit is still in a 60's/70's small cars interior... With all that interior out maybe I should replace the head gasket and aim for Australia's fastest standard gearbox Fiat 125 to this date...
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    Bugger about the engine bud. Might not be as bad as you think.

    Cage will be very useful. I wouldn't drive it without the interior though- that is all that was making it so torsionally rigid. Take that out and it might twist all over the place and carry wheels in the air.





    How are you doing the cage?
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    I'll give you a tip for free. Pull the farkin head off you clown. Why keep guessing when you could find out in 1/2hr? It's only been 4 months since it became a Dutch oven at Leyburn.

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    Hehe, cause the motor has to come out for "other things" anyways... So not point in doing extra work now.

    Muz - I am not doing the cage, people with talent will be.
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    So, whats the Fiat plans for '08? Stuck injector is just one of those bad things that should not happen, got to fix it and move on

    Hope I can get out there in '08
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    You should get the seat mounted a bit further back this time as so I can drive it. Let me know if you need a hand. I am home until the 9th of Jan with very little to do.
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    Richard - plans for 08 are just the usual, Maryborough & Leyburn with a few sprint days and hillclimbs thrown in. I no longer feel like breaking my back trying to do as many things as I can.

    But once this stage is done the car will be log booked as 3J. That way I'll be able to compete at state and national level hill climbs.

    Ian - not happening.. The seat actually has three mounting points, just have to unbolt it to change them.
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    You trying to break in to the 12s for the 1/4 mile?

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    An update... the dry ice worked a treat. There's more tar in a 125 Special than a 50 year old pokie player's lungs.

    Thursday night I managed to do under the rear seat, rear foot wells, rear section of the tunnel and almost all of the driver's footwell. I still have the pedal area, front part of the tunnel and front passenger footwell to do. That said, I removed two bucket fulls of tar!! I would estimate ~ 7.5kgs. More importantly, it looks much neater and no rust was uncovered.

    Here are the pics:
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    Any word on the engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    Hehe, cause the motor has to come out for "other things" anyways
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    You should turbo it
    ???

    When's the cage happening? Is it going to be ANDRA spec?

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    253 conversion?
    Getting sounding like slapping thongs in no time!
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    There will be no turbo, if I did that you guys would need to think of something else to nag me about!

    Motor will be looked at after the cage is done. Hopefully it won't be coming out now...

    With the times this car will be able to pull with the interior out getting anything less than a full ANDRA spec cage would be just plain unresponsible...
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    Finished with the dry ice. I still have to do the sides of the tunnel, but my attempts at making a cardboard dam so the ice would touch the sides failed. No great drama, I'll just have to use the heat gun around there.

    Also found 2 little rust holes, one that has started around a drain hole and another about the size of a 5 cent piece. Both are in the front passenger footwell. Can not really complain, it's nearly 40 years old...and a Fiat...
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    How much dry ice did you use? I'm thinking of doing the same thing in a few weeks..

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    I used about 20kgs of pellets all up.
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    Bit of an update. I finished cleaning all the tar off the tricky areas with a heat gun, kero and steel wool. There were quite a few hours in that. I have never seen so much tar in a car, over 4 buckets full. Probably ~25-30kgs.

    A bit over a week ago it was loaded onto the trailer and sent off to get the cage done. Went around today and whipped the head off. The head gasket did not blow, but must have lifted a little. Number 4 was full of coolant. So I'll have to find someone that can give the head a good looking over.

    Anyway, the main hoop and front legs have been bent up, here are a couple of pics.
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    I LOVE this car!!!!
    Is there no water mark on the gasket at all? How thin were your bores to water jackets? I once had one that wore through the bore and filled itself with water that way. It was a 1608 block though not the 1995.

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    Not so much on the gasket, but there is on the head. This was a virginal block before the .5mm bore, so there is still plenty of space.
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    No cracks in bore or head?

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    Checked for cracks in the bore and could not see any at all. Can not see any cracks in the head, though I will know more once it has been disassembled.

    Also need to get it at TDC and put a micrometre on it to see if I have bent a rod.
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    The only bent rod you would be able to measure is oxy's from poking you in the blurter.

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    Well yes...there was a crack in the head. Roof of number 4 inlet, it's pretty thin around there, must have been some corrosion deep in the gallery as none is visible from outside. Was in a right sea hunt of an area to weld but it has been done!

    Will hopefully be back on the car within a couple of weeks.
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    That's good/ bad.

    Good luck guido McFatlip.
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    Will this car be back on the road before of after bigmuz walks to Perth naked?

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    Just picked up the head from being welded up and reconditioned from JHH. The crack in the roof of number 4 inlet was welded up, diassembled and cleaned, new valve stem seals and cam box gaskets, small skim and the cams were reground due to slight pitting on a couple of the lobes.

    Here are some pics. Will be going on with the pictured cam wheels that I have had sitting around for a while.

    If all goes to plan I'll fit the head Saturday morning.
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