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    Winning lotto - My secret formula revealed

    Okay, so I wouldn't normally reveal such a secret, however I was telling my wifes family last weekend, and they couldn't get their heads around the concept.
    In fact, as recently as 5 mins ago, my wife again said what everyone else was saying, in that my method (which I will detail below) would not improve my chances.

    I must state a caveat, which is that I have not in fact won lotto yet, nor play the game.
    However I do have a formula which I feel would improve my chances over an "auto pick". I'm putting it out there to the brains trust to pick apart my argument.

    My theory:
    To improve your chances at lotto, you need to complete a card which has every number picked on it. Sure, ultimately to win, all 6 numbers need to be in that one game square ... however, by making sure that every number of the 48(?) numbers to pick from is on your card at least once, you are improving your chances that you could win the big prize. If you've ever had an auto pick, you will have noticed many repeat numbers, and always you are missing at least one number. This (I feel) reduces your chances, as when the balls drop, and that number is selected, you complete card has no chance of winning the big prize.

    The opposition:
    Its a stupid theory. You have just as much chance of winning with an auto pick, as you do by following my theory of ensuring every number is covered. Whilst I might have every number from 1-48 on a card, my chances of having them all in the one game are just as good as an autopick since it is the winning numbers in the one game which blows my argument out of the water.




    So ... I haven't sat down and crunched numbers, but in my mind it seems pretty simple. By simply having all of the numbers from 1-48 on my card, I have a greater chance of winning, as my "pool" of numbers is larger.


    Your thoughts?
    Last edited by seedyrom; 08-07-12 at 08:59 PM.

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    Every single combination has the same odds of winning it's called probability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom View Post

    Your thoughts?
    I'm thinking that you didn't complete any tertiary education.

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    i used to play with "1 2 3 4 5 6" and "7 8 9 10 11 12"

    and so on

    people said i was crazy

    i told them that the chances it would win were just as big as any other combo, but at least mine was proper organised.

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    wow, you're brain damaged. Gambling is a tax on the stupid.

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    what happens if you divide by zero?

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    fucking lol

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    as long as you believe it works then the gambling industry has done its job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyXF View Post
    I'm thinking that you didn't complete any tertiary education.

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    Take this theory to ACA.

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    And yet not one person has proved me wrong

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    Actually buying a Lotto ticket improves your odds of winning by only a miniscule amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom View Post
    And yet not one person has proved me wrong
    Must b rite than.

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    I think this is an elaborate ruse.

    However- there is a way to optimise your winnings if the numbers do line up- choose numbers >31 as most people are retards and will choose birthdays and therefore if you win using numbers under 31 you will likely share your winnings with some other retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom View Post
    To improve your chances at lotto, you need to complete a card which has every number picked on it.
    I didn't think you could do that but your idea has merit, to dumb it down a bit if someone was flipping a coin i'd just say "heads or tails" and i'd be sure to win?

    I don't need to prove you wrong until you attempt to prove you right.

    I play battler's lotto at work with the rest of the people there, but only so they don't win without me as us winning would be amazingly ironic which i think improves the odds. on my own i'd never do it. the ringleader generally only buys tickets to jackpots "because you don't want to waste your luck on small prizes"

    also why do people who win the jackpot go on the news and tell everyone where they just bought a big house? how are they supposed to stop their relatives finding them then?
    Last edited by Roadsailing; 08-07-12 at 09:15 PM.

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    I remember a few months back there was a division 1 of ~20mil (iirc) and there were so many Div 1 winners each of them took $500k. $500k is nice, but ouch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganDAVE View Post
    wow, you're brain damaged. Gambling is a tax on the stupid.
    tell that to a pro gambler

    edit pro's dont play lotto from what i have heard

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom View Post
    And yet not one person has proved me wrong
    Are you saying that you should cover all the numbers in different games?

    And then, what, ask them if you can combine two games afterwards to win?

    In what way do you think this would help?

    Still not sure if you are serious or not.

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    oh yea btw if you find out how many games are played a year and how many div 1 win's there are each year you can actually work out the real chances of winning

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    You are also brain damaged.

    Lol @ pro-gamblers, no such thing other than poker players. Poker players understand statistics and as such don't play lotto.

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    Last edited by chartreusehj; 08-07-12 at 09:22 PM.

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    Pro punters definitely do exist outside of poker- whether it is a front/protection for other activities is another topic I guess?

    Re- lotto. Honestly not sure if serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdyno View Post
    oh yea btw if you find out how many games are played a year and how many div 1 win's there are each year you can actually work out the real chances of winning
    this thread is killing my brain

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    Think of it as roulette

    We all know why the house has a "zero".
    With lotto, by not having all of the numbers on a card (even though you still have to select the correct six), you are effectively taking away a potential winning number, and instead adding a guaranteed fail. Highlighted below, where the autopick entry does not include "1".

    Last edited by seedyrom; 08-07-12 at 09:43 PM.

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    Yeah but you're talking about spreading all 45 numbers over how many games? You do know you can't select them all in one game right... They only draw 8 numbers per game... You do understand how probability works?

    Still not sure if serious or brain damaged.

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    Theory is completely flawed. The only way to improve your odds playing lotto is to take more numbers in 1 game. That's the only thing that's going to bring down the odds of winning. Might go from 279,456,938:1 to 98,882,981:1.

    There are plenty of professional gamblers outside of poker. I know a couple of guys that bet on horses/sports and have no daytime job. They aren't millionares but win enough not to have to work.

    Quote Originally Posted by nickevans View Post
    Yeah but you're talking about spreading all 45 numbers over how many games? You do know you can't select them all in one game right... They only draw 8 numbers per game... You do understand how probability works?
    Most of the lottos will let you take a "system" bet with upto 15 numbers on a game. They're not fucking cheap though!

    http://www.ozlotteries.com/play/oz-lotto/systems

    That's the only way I see of improving the probability of hitting it.
    Last edited by Justin Bieber; 08-07-12 at 09:51 PM.

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    You either have the 6 numbers or you dont, statistically every combination has the same chance of coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rona View Post
    Every single combination has the same odds of winning it's called probability.
    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom View Post
    And yet not one person has proved me wrong
    Yes they have seedyrom, see above.

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    I remember a 30 minute tv show that went through all the first division winning tickets and what numbers had come up higher, I'm pretty sure 13 was up there in the top five.
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