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    Mercedes 230TE - Rescue thread

    So this was abandoned at my truck parking depot, and the lady there kept nagging me to take it or it was off to Simms Metal to be crushed.

    Fuck it OK I'll take it.......



    I have no idea what year it is but I'm thinking 82 - 83 due to the headlights?

    So the car is pretty rough, but complete








    Apparently it was a Barristers car, and it had been in his family for quite some time, and it was to be a project for him and his 6 year old son?....but somewhere along the line he went AWOL and couldn't be contacted and never paid his bill which was in excess of $1000.

    The gearbox is out of the car as is the rear Hydralic shocks, but all the parts are in the boot.



    Including a brand new Auto Gearbox and Torque converter




    So anyway $50 later its towed and dumped on my front lawn much to my neighbours disgust

    I started to tidy it up a little, lots of flyspray and high pressure hosing as the thing is riddled with ebola then I could see exactly what was what.


    Notice Jack stand to level the car off so it doesn't look so much like a wreck...



    Polished 1/2 the bonnet and Chrome work...y'know just to see.



    Interior vacuumed and mould removed from seats





    Rims are pure Aids but Tyres brand new



    Everything out of boot and degreased / organised.



    Then put neatly back.



    Getting it off the lawn was not easy as brakes were seized, so I enlisted some help to tow me round the block a few times to...unseize things.

    It now reside's on my driveway while I Google Google and do some more Googling on these things

    What ive learnt.

    Fuck the messy complicated expensive Self levelling rear suspension, Sedan springs fit (heavier duty hold car level) and the sedan shocks bolt onto bottom mount but require some fiddling of top mount. so im ordering these two items:

    Springs $120 delivered



    Shocks $250 delivered



    That's the suspension sorted.

    Under the bonnet I put everything back where it should be as best I could, seems to be all there.
    oil in the engine looks good, no oily marks around exhaust / back door, so I'm going to presume its ok....and if it wasn't you would pull the motor and box as one complete unit, wouldn't you?

    I did notice the crankshaft sensor was broke, and this is the cheapest replacement I can find

    $140 delivered



    Sunroof opens and closes, lights and indicators work, and 3 of the 4 electric windows work.

    Exterior wise I still have a lot of primer, thinners, sand paper etc left from my Manta build so am going to buy 2 litres of Light Ivory $273, 4 litres of Clear $92 and give this thing a real quick closed door blow over

    The car is dead straight so I'm fairly confident it will look pretty good...as good as my Manta which is fine.

    I'm not investing any more than $1500 into it and for that I want it driving / licensed and look pretty damn tidy inside and out and under the bonnet......so stay tuned for updates
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTREA View Post

    So anyway $50 later its towed and dumped on my front lawn much to my neighbours disgust
    I'd respectfully suggest this has improved your "lawn"

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    Hey that's cool. Much love for the w123.
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    the only decent six pot holden ever put in a car was the nissan RB30

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahaimus View Post
    I'd respectfully suggest this has improved your "lawn"
    Haha yeah i may have left it a little bit long to turn the retic on 😁

    Quote Originally Posted by Asteroid View Post
    Hey that's cool. Much love for the w123.
    Same, wagon was always my favourite to

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    $1500 is enough to buy and fit a 1UZ and A341













    * may not be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by perthdrivers.txt View Post
    $1500 is enough to buy and fit a 1UZ and A341













    * may not be true
    Lol there is a complete one in car for $1500 on gumtree atm....if i keep this thing it is the route i will go but for now cheapest quickest and easiest route to licensing ftw

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    Good on you for grabbing it and doing something with it
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    Nice work reviving and old Merc. Wagon too, extra cred.

    The motor runs K-Jet mechanical fuel injection, if it has sat for a while it might be a bit iffy to run right. Make sure the fuel is clean going into that fuel head. There is a plunger inside that sticks. The flap is like an air flow meter and acts on the plunger, there is a 3mm allen key screw to adjust mixture. Use a wideband when playing with it... Fuck i don't(do) miss working on these things....
    The round thingy on the front of the head is the hydraulic pump for the rear suspension, which you no longer need... but the cells in the back were not too exy to buy, and easy to swap... prob just needed new cells and new fluid.... Does the vac central locking work? Actually you will need the engine running to find out lol.

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    self levelling suspension in these is not that complicated, you should put it back
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    Good on you for grabbing it and doing something with it
    I'm a sucker for rescue cats and dogs....why not cars to!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forg Convertible View Post
    Nice work reviving and old Merc. Wagon too, extra cred.

    The motor runs K-Jet mechanical fuel injection, if it has sat for a while it might be a bit iffy to run right. Make sure the fuel is clean going into that fuel head. There is a plunger inside that sticks. The flap is like an air flow meter and acts on the plunger, there is a 3mm allen key screw to adjust mixture. Use a wideband when playing with it... Fuck i don't(do) miss working on these things....
    The round thingy on the front of the head is the hydraulic pump for the rear suspension, which you no longer need... but the cells in the back were not too exy to buy, and easy to swap... prob just needed new cells and new fluid.... Does the vac central locking work? Actually you will need the engine running to find out lol.
    Yeah was a bit worried about the fuel injection system....
    The big round flap moves up and down easy enough, does it have an electric fuel pump then?, can't hear anything when I turn the key (there is 3/4 of a tank in it though)

    I will need to make a blanking plate like so



    For that pump, all the hydraulic lines have been removed from the car, spheres are around $250 shocks maybe $800, but then there's filters and all sort of other crap, just not taking the risk....KISS

    Vacuum operated central locking!? more vacuum lines is not what this thing needs.

    Actually its not like anything ive worked on before, seems very complicated compared to my Manta of the same era, front suspension and steering setup

    Connector plugs look good quality though.

    Will be back to pick your brain no doubt
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    The diesel ones have vacuum operated fuel cut too, so a faulty door lock can render the car unable to be switched off.
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    Vac-operated door locks was pretty common.

    VW at least, used it well into the '90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asteroid View Post
    The diesel ones have vacuum operated fuel cut too, so a faulty door lock can render the car unable to be switched off.
    haha my friend's car does this it's amazing.
    or the reverse maybe- have a brief window of opportunity to lock the doors after you turn it off, before the system loses pressure lol.

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    And with mine the vacuum central locking is pretty robust and reliable, unlike the fucjen window winders.....

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    Sweet score for the money!

    The fuel pump should prime when you turn the ignition on. Could be seized? Give it a tap, will probably roar into life.

    I know quite a lot about K jet also, its pretty simple once you understand how it works. Biggest thing is the fuel pressure needs to be spot on for it to run nice.

    Have you tried starting it yet?

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    Oh man that's cool! Will be a rare side in Perth when it's rego too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTREA View Post
    I'm a sucker for rescue cats and dogs....why not cars to!?



    Yeah was a bit worried about the fuel injection system....
    The big round flap moves up and down easy enough, does it have an electric fuel pump then?, can't hear anything when I turn the key (there is 3/4 of a tank in it though)

    I will need to make a blanking plate like so



    For that pump, all the hydraulic lines have been removed from the car, spheres are around $250 shocks maybe $800, but then there's filters and all sort of other crap, just not taking the risk....KISS

    Vacuum operated central locking!? more vacuum lines is not what this thing needs.

    Actually its not like anything ive worked on before, seems very complicated compared to my Manta of the same era, front suspension and steering setup

    Connector plugs look good quality though.

    Will be back to pick your brain no doubt
    Yeah the electrical connectors.... its one thing that amazes me with these older Benz's. They are huge and would have cost a fortune to manufacture. And would outlive its owners . Quality stuff.

    Yep you should hear a fuel pump with ignition on. There should be a regulator of some sort too, to maintain pressure with engine off. I think you will see an assembly of components at the back under the car near the tank. Reg, pump and filter. Don't loose the copper washers as they are specific for the banjo bolts, and so easy to leak.

    THe flap (dunny door) will move ok, but the plunger might be stuck up in the fuel head. Don't worry abouit until you need to.

    I'm no expert on these things, just absorbed alot of useless info when working for a Benz guru (actually 2 shops, and one resto shop where I was on my own) so if what I know helps then cool.

    At least you don't have D-Jetronic. Now that's complicated..... First ever electronic EFI in mass production. Was a shitshow so K-jet was a move back to mechanical (CIS) injection.There was a Lucas copy of D-Jet i think. Fuck that lol. I remember diagnosing a rich running 250ce merc to have a faulty MAP sensor. Had to keep ordering MAP sensors from the Benz wrecker till one worked. And another 280se 3.5, has trigger points in the dizzy for the injection. Nothing to do with the ignition lol. Talk about confusing. So yeah K-Jet is simpler and easier to diag, but parts can be expensive if you order new or rebuilt. The fuel heads aren't cheap. Best to rob wrecked cars till you get all good working second hand parts.
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    Lovely. Glad to see it got saved.

    Needs to be made into some kind of period Race car support vehicle etc.
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    Was under it this morning fuel pump not running but doesnt look like its getting a power feed either.

    Cant start car as box and starter not fitted

    Will put the gearbox and everything back in underneath mid week then connect all the wiring up properly, and take it from there.

    Ignition switch feels funny in its operation, has ACC position but doesnt really want to turn past that? Has no 'spring' to it...?
    No sure thats normal or a mercedes thing.

    1UZ still looking tempting but thats realistically $5000 minimum fitted licensed enginnered etc. 🤔

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    Bridge the fuel pump relay. See what happens then.

    Yeah, might help to have the box and starter in. haha, forgot about that!

    Ignition switch should be sprung loaded. Might actually be the no fuel pump culprit?

    Edit : ignition must be working with key ignition switch, you said the sunroof and indicator work etc?

    Might be happier once everything else is connected after auto reinstalled
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    Pump won't work without starter. Has a sensor wire from the dizzy to engage the fuel pump relay.
    As said, you can bridge the relay contacts to test the pump and even for first start, just not recommended for continued driving - it's a safety/die in a blazing fireball thing.

    Edit. You'll need the relay pinout for the Merc. I only have the Porsche version.
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    Jam this thing on a set of rep BBS like the Manta after the respray and this will be a cool economical grocery getter.

    I'd be even more excited if it was the 5 cyl turbo diesel because those things love being fettled but the old 2.3 chugger will run forever.
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    Great seeing the old tanks getting saved. Not tempted to put an SR20DET in it being a wagon Lindsay?? Kidding. Keen to see the updates.

    +1 for the BBS reps on this.
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    Love this. "One bloke mucking about at home with tiny budget" are my favourite kind of build threads.

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    does the park/neutral safety switch need to be connected to actually get power to the fuel pump?
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    You bastard, got me looking at a couple as a cheap "take to the beach when I go for a surf and not give a fuck about it" option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stix Zadinia View Post
    does the park/neutral safety switch need to be connected to actually get power to the fuel pump?
    Not really, it just stops the starter from turning it over.
    But it needs to be at least turning over for the dizzy to turn on the fuel pump relay.
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    Still plugging away a few hours a day everyday on this thing and I'm starting to see some progress now!.

    I've gone balls deep in it now though so theres no turning back, $700 for the SLS delete kit from the US is on its way, that will sort out the rear suspension, $170 for 2 litres of Supercheaps finest Light Ivory mix, $94 for the clear, about $60 for thinners, and with the purchase price and tow home I'm up around $1100

    But fuck me if this things not looking pretty good already.



    I Patched and treated all the rust holes, I used stonechip primer under rear bumper and front bumper to hide the imperfections from repair, looks factory.
    Changed the grille colour from the matt black it was to gloss grey which is how they came (just grey Primer with clear)
    One quick coat of primer, 2 litres of paint did entire car (closed door respray) and theres around 3 litres of clear on it.
    Rubbed back and buffed front of car today to see how it looked and although far from perfect it looks mint!

    Will get some more pics up later

    *Still tossing up on the wheels, get some factory ones, or utilize these brand new 17 in tyres and buy a brand new set of 17" BBS Copies
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