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    Change of career

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    Been lying low for the last month after being made redundant from Genworth.

    Those fearing no more RP Data searches fear not I'll PM my username and password.

    Having a huge passion for Cars I've secured a role with Bayside European selling new Peugeot cars along with the second hand cars in stock.

    Those looking for a Pug car not dog feel free to give me call or drop by for a coffee and a chat.
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    All the best with it!

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    Thought about selling cars myself before. How'd you go about getting the role? Do you have experience that could be adapted to sales?

    Good luck with it. Get any weekends off?

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    I have no passion for Peugeots roadcars but congrats on the new job. Hope it all works well and you get a lot of enjoyment out if it.
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    No good on the redundancy Matt, good stuffs and luck with the new role!!!

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    Googling Genworth says it was insurance ... so going from sales to sales?

    Doesn't sound like a huge career redirection, ie. manageable & transferable; but sounds good, most excellent!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaku8 View Post
    Thought about selling cars myself before. How'd you go about getting the role? Do you have experience that could be adapted to sales?

    Good luck with it. Get any weekends off?
    I have no retail sales experience (other than working in a bottle shop) but have purchased many a car over the years so much so that I don't purchase my cars in Victoiria at all and go interstate that I will just do the opposite to every sales person I have dealt with and have taken a lot of advice from a lot of people in the industry over the last few weeks.

    My role at GMA was not sales based - I basically looked after repossessed properties that held LMI along with hardships claims and other recoveries and back end stuff - I secured the role via a specialized recruitment agency that looks after the motor trade. Was offered the job later in the day after the interview with the sales manager. Having the redundancy and other funds behind me has been helpful and given the crap I've had in financial services for effectively 20 years - politics, crap senior management etc....I'm really looking forward to the change irrespective of giving up Saturdays which is better than the above mentioned.

    There is only 3 sales people at the dealership me being the third with a volume of 50 - 60 per month with the possibilities of other brands coming on board (Euro) in the next 12
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    I went from retail sales (about 5 years worth) to used car sales at, what I thought at the time, one of the best 2nd hand dealers in the city, Salters of Moorooka. It was one of the worst decisions of my life. I was employed for 3 weeks and got let go because I wasn't enough of a cunt (as said to me by the sales manager). I sold about 5 cars and made some decent money, but I know it wasn't right for me.

    The people that worked there were the cuntiest, rudest people I have ever met. I went out for drinks with them one Friday night and within 30 mins of being there one guy had about 4 drinks, and then abused everyone within shouting distance. I was gobsmacked at how much of a cunt he was. Not a PF cunt, like a real and absolute prick of a man. I was embarrassed by what he was doing, but, he was the best sales guy, so he was seen as a bit of a god.

    Never again will I even contemplate making a career move like that again.

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    Thanks Kevin

    My manager is ex Mercedes and from what I have seen so far your example just wouldn't fly with the Peugeot brand or the dealership at all.

    I'm off to Sydney for some training and will also be at the dealers service centre which is in another suburb from the actual sales centre. I'll curry some favor by getting a slab of beer for the service guys first day to build on the relationship

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    I tried a change like that about 10 years ago. Went from being a mechanic then truck driver to doing Motorcycle sales at the highest selling KTM dealer in NSW.
    Lasted 3 mths and told them to fuck off and started driving trucks again. same story i wasnt a big enough cunt and boss wanted me to do the hard sell within the first 30 seconds.
    Never mind that i had customers tell me they came back and bought from me because i didnt do that to them like the other dealers! when i told the boss this i was basically told what would i know etc so
    i told him i know i can get 40 grand a year more driving a truck and not take his shit so i left.
    I hope your experience goes better for you.
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    Good luck with it - all my mates that have done it or are still doing it say it's a prick of a job, good money if you are good at it, but expect to be ridden hard by your manager who is being ridden hard by the dealer principal... Tactics and sales bullshit sell cars, not being nice..
    Your 'values', whilst noble and nice and sound great when you start out, will be lost if you want to be successful in that industry.

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    So repossessing houses has given me a good grounding - I've heard the horror stories etc...but sick of the corporate office environment and with this dealer being small I'm confident I can do well

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    There should be room in the industry for someone who is well presented, articulate, knows their product well and understands a car purchasing decision cant be made in one day.

    The only ones I have found of that calibre are selling 60K+ euros.

    Good to see the dealer is looking for someone outside the industry and happy to give you a go. Peugeot are in an upswing with good products coming through, hope it works out for you.

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    Matt all the very best in the new role. It takes a fair bit of effort to step out of one field into another so my hat goes off to you.

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    I worked at a bike dealer for a while.

    I was going to quit at 10am on the first day, but I really stuck at it.

    I quit on the second day.

    Absolute cunts - they even say "never lie to a customer" then in the next breath do exactly that.

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    Initally after I was made redundant I looked at roles similar to what I was doing but I wanted a challenge

    Sure the market will turn sooner or later and I could always go back but I really want to give it a shot - the personal agency and dealer have given me a great opportunity. Peugeot have been around a long time in Oz and have a good selection of cars

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    Yeah, Give it a go - you might really enjoy it - There is only one way to find out..

    Just be prepared

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    60 cars a month is a pretty small dealer so maybe it gives you the chance to spend a bit more time on each customer?
    It Places the lotion in the basket!

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    The car salesmen I've encountered recently have all been reasonable people, I guess with some prospects you would have to put the pressure on in order to get them to make a decision but if you are a good people person and judge of character then you could do quite well by the sound of it. Good luck anyway.
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    matt - there's a f&i business manager role with mercedes (corporate owned not dealer) based at toorak. they'd benefit from your financial services background, jump on seek and have a look. ote ~250K

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    What's the standard retainer at a dealership? What commission on top of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-turbo View Post
    matt - there's a f&i business manager role with mercedes (corporate owned not dealer) based at toorak. they'd benefit from your financial services background, jump on seek and have a look. ote ~250K
    Unlike sales you need an F&I background to get into this field -I was going to go that way late last year on the AHG cadet program but after discussing this with a guy I know @ AHG sales was the way to go

    Given the brand IMO a person who walks into a Pug dealership would be a former Pug driver or similar eg Saab - they would have done there homework beforehand it's not like other euro brands like VW or MB walking out the door
    Last edited by -Matt-; 12-07-15 at 05:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exwrxex View Post
    There should be room in the industry for someone who is well presented, articulate, knows their product well and understands a car purchasing decision cant be made in one day.

    The only ones I have found of that calibre are selling 60K+ euros.

    Good to see the dealer is looking for someone outside the industry and happy to give you a go. Peugeot are in an upswing with good products coming through, hope it works out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Matt- View Post

    Given the brand IMO a person who walks into a Pug dealership would be a former Pug driver or similar eg Saab
    So do you wear sandals with socks to form a connection with your typical buyers?
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    Did a stint at salters as relief f&i manager. Yup they are cunts.
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    Good luck with the role Matt. Us sales guys are not all bad people & I'm sure you'll warm to it quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Matt- View Post
    Peugeot have been around a long time in Oz and have a good selection of cars
    See, there you go... you're all over it & selling already
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    Mate of mine was a sales manager for a big dealership in Syd back whan Saab was still around and always said Saab buyers were his worst nightmare! Indecisive, latte sipping academics who came back multiple times for multiple test drives in the auto ,in the manual,in the black ,in the blue one etc and hyper focused on every little minutiae.Read the brochure back to front,knew more about the cars than he ever would or cared. Impossible to close,frustrating for sales people..your typical Peugeot buyer are probably similar..but then he really was more of the aforementioned cunt who just wanted the sales numbers and knew fuck all about cars really other than quoting 0-100 times and that sports cars pulled chicks.

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    Question: someone comes into your dealership to buy a low spec/ low cost new car.

    They say they are a cash buyer (and they don't want paint protection, extended warranty etc etc)...do they get a better or worse price on the car??
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