wheel hub motors will open a new can of worms in car design
its just a matter of time not to have an engine bay and a batt
as they do now on some models as the floor.
wheel hub motors will open a new can of worms in car design
its just a matter of time not to have an engine bay and a batt
as they do now on some models as the floor.
Last edited by datso; 19-07-15 at 11:26 PM.
MagnettiMarelli have just released an MGU-h for sale in the market which is also cool but slightly OT.
https://www.facebook.com/forgedperformanceaustralia/posts/849412325135742:0
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Modders will be frying themselves left, right and centre....this shit isn't to be taken lightly and you can't just roll out the spanners and start swapping shit. Mods will be undertaken by workshops mostly I reckon?Originally Posted by richzx
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yep, in the context of workshops fucking with cars teslas pyro fuse in the battery pack sounds like a very good idea.
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There are a heap of backyard electric conversions out there already. It's just a matter of time until the Tesla stuff winds up in other cars.
Although, I'm pretty sure the batteries would be in demand for people looking at home solar setups as well.
Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Did you miss the Tesla wall thingo? Their batteries in a nice looking box to do exactly that (and grab cheap off peak power to recharge, and feed the house in peak)
"And I know that arseholes grow on trees but I'm here to trim the leaves" Peeping Tom, Mike Patton
seen a maroon 1 a month back, followed it down past botany bay, nice shape but it could be a new commodore or a budget lexus. looks a big average for that coin
Holden/HSV sell a supercharged commodore but people still do that themselves.
If in doubt power out
While this is true, Holden charge you $50k to fit a supercharger to a car which is, if you compare across all privately-owned vehicles (ie. compare to everything from RAV4's to La Ferraris), only incrementally better than the $50k version of the same car. That's why people do that themselves. If Tesla stick to the pricing they claimed at the start of the year for their pretty wall-box thingies, the number of people doing that themselves using bits & pieces of broken car won't be all that high.
Still, I guess there are people using busted Prius bits for similar jiggery-pokery.
Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.
The new/upcoming compact Tesla sedan should have a smaller battery, yes?
You're not thinking like a hot-rodder
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the tesla is already like that. 7 seat (no fuel tank to get in the way at the back) and massive boot up front (no motor in the way there either)
benefit of designing a car as an EV right from the start
There is no massive boot up front for the AWD models. It was designed to put a motor there.
The underfloor batteries cause their own packaging problems. High floor causes headroom and rear seat comfort issues. Much like the body on frame dual cab utes.
Modern ICE car usually have their fuel tank under the read seat. Not under the boot.
under or behind. either way makes it more difficult for packaging. didnt know the 4wds did not have the front boot. thats a bit gay.
My car has battery under the drivers seat....
Not a tesla though
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Petrol engine modders (hell even Diesel engine modders) = eleventy
Propellerhead electric modders = 10in relative terms
Get as many of the former, doing the latter (who arent propellerheads) and see how many crispy modders result
GT8
1UZ Celica
1.07 flat Wakefield Park
It'll be a sad day when Ozone replaces nitro as the smell hanging in the air at the drags.
There has been an electric drag scene for quite some time - but few spectators as whilst quick it lacks the noise and theatre of ICE cars.
Yes we Chemistry
How many retards have retarded working on ic cars????? Only a billion. There a lot of smart people out there and electric is no different to ic they will be modded and some will be total rubbish and unsafe and some will be like Carroll Shelby it's just the way it is.
http://electrek.co/2015/11/16/tesla-...epower-claims/
Whoops... Tesla telling fibs about power output. After lecturing other about fibbingEarlier this month, Tesla changed the advertised horsepower of the Model S P85D from 691 hp to 463 hp.
The company also offers the ‘Ludicrous upgrade’ to increase the max power output of the battery pack from 1300 to 1500 Amps, which enables 532 hp according to Tesla. – still significantly less than the original 691 hp.
From an advertised 515kw to a revised 345kw. Class action perhaps?
Last edited by rj_astra; 18-11-15 at 09:22 AM.
I drove a P85D the other day in Insane Mode (the Ludicrous ones aren't here yet). Sure felt like quite a bit more than 436hp...it felt like an honest 700!
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Full torque from 0 rpm will probably do that.
dont really think 436hp is going to push 2.3T to an 11 second 1/4 mile.
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Seeing a handful of these around Perth, which is keen considering there is sfa charging infrastructure and the nearest dealer is Melbourne....
3x1UZ+1x2UR...
The Electric motor / drive train modding argument sounds eerily similar to the 'Only workshops will be able to modify this new fangled EFI stuff' argument of 1986
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2013 Opel Insignia OPC - Daily
2011 Hyundai iLoad - Work
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They do have it however it's a bit smaller to fit the front motors.
AWD and max everything near 0 rpm
Trap speeds for Tesla show its all in the launch. A RWD Hellcat will chase it down.
Yes, but you can't fight physics. 997 911 turbo is the closest match I can find, 480hp, AWD, tons of grip, 0-60 in 3.4, 11.6 1/4 and it weighs 600kg less than the Tesla. I have no doubt it needs less power to accomplish the same time down the 1/4 mile, but it is nowhere near the low 400s. There are people putting RWD teslas on the dyno and getting 400+ hp - http://insideevs.com/video-autocar-s...s-to-the-dyno/
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Aren't they 4 billion Nm?
Why is everyone banging on about it running 11's, shouldn't the trap speed be more telling of the power output?
Close enough to prove to you it's the realms of possibility?
Do those "formulas" work when powered by electrical motors? Or are they strictly physics? Something with a bazillion horsepower but take ages to get to full power won't allow enough time to accelerate so would give a false reading for example.
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