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    Geez they sounds a bit gutless at the high altitudes of stage 6



    bunch of pics from precious stages

























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    Going to be a tough one up next as well, expect to see more heartbreak.

    STAGE 9: BELEN > BELEN

    Connection 111km | Special Stage 285km | Total 396km

    COURSE OVERVIEW

    This loop stage will not really be one for motorbikes and quad bikes, which will finish the first part of this second marathon stage in an isolated bivouac. Prior to this they will have spent the day, alongside the drivers in the other categories, almost entirely off-piste, both in the vegetation-scattered dunes and on harder terrains, sometimes on river beds. Physically, the day might prove to be a significant challenge, as the mercury soars. The hardiest drivers will also be those who are the most clear headed, able to make the right navigational choices, a major challenge of this special section.






    Also seems light it is going to be tough for the Gordinis,

    So just got off the phone with Klaus. RG just got into the Bivouac, Sheldon is over an hour away. It is currently 1:15am there.

    RG Burnt up his rear end during the second part of the stage, Creed did get stuck and burnt up his clutch. Sheldon did get hit by another big truck which caused the damage to the rear wheel they were fixing in the picture. Klaus said Robby pulled into the Bivouac and hopped out with a huge smile on his face and was stoked that he got towed by a huge truck on the course at 105kmph, remember this was after a bad day and problems. Cool to hear he is staying super positive and enjoying himself.

    Creed did finish but did not go through the rest of the way points so he will be getting a bunch of penalties but will continue on in the race.

    Klaus said the Team Speed Support truck with all the tools isnt into the bivouac either so no work has started. Going to be a long long night.
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    Sounds like Peterhansel could be in the merde after accusations of illegally refuelling outside of a designated area.
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    http://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news...gation-667241/

    Stephane Peterhansel’s Dakar Rally lead is under threat thanks to an investigation over illegal refuelling.

    The Peugeot driver is speaking with event officials after having been accused of refuelling in an unauthorised area. If he is found guilty, it could cost him the lead of the rally.

    Peugeot team director Bruno Famin, however, says that no breach of the rules took place.

    “The refueling point exists in the road book. I do not understand why this situation has happened,” he said.

    “We compete with the best sportsmanship.”

    According to director of rival X-raid team Sven Quandt, the refuelling rules for Stage 8 were made clear to competitors in the driver’s briefing.

    “The rule is very clear and easy to decide,” said Quandt.

    “At the meeting it was said that there would be no refuelling. The rule says that.

    “The point is clear 100 per cent. The stage includes link sections and a special stage and starts this morning and ends at the finish.

    “The charging point in the road book was for motorcycles and quads, not cars.”


    The rules


    The refuelling in Uyuni will be done with barrils. Every Crew must order it to the Competitors’
    Department, on 10th
    November 2015 at the latest.

    The allowed fuels will have to match the following norms:
     FIA norms, Appendix J;
     official norms of fuels distributed in the petrol stations in Argentina and Chile (norms available
    from the Organiser).
    The maximum limit of CETAN for Diesel Vehicles is 55.
    The use of special fuels, other than those described above is strictly forbidden on the pain of
    Disqualification, with the exception of Vehicles racing for the Alternative Energies Challenge.

    The use of aviation fuel (AVGAS) is authorised for petrol-engine Vehicles.
    The use of bio fuels will be accepted upon declaration, after acceptation of the file by the Organising
    Committee. The requests have to be carried out before 15th
    October 2015.

    2) Fuel Range
    All Vehicles must have a minimum range of 800 km, with the exception of 100% electric Vehicles.
    Each Competitor is responsible for calculating his fuel range. In no case may Competitors make any
    claims against the Organisers if their Vehicle fails to cover the minimum distance of 800 km, regardless
    of the nature of the terrain.
    For safety reasons, a 10% margin is indispensable, i.e. a range of 880 km.

    3) Refuelling
    a) The obtaining of fuel is authorised uniquely, on pain of Disqualification:
     at commercial service stations in the Stage towns or on the Road Sections;
     via distributors authorised by the Organisers (list available upon request) at the Bivouac on the
    designed area;
     at the Organiser’s distribution points (Bike refuelling for NRJ Challenge Vehicles).

    49/144 Car – Truck Regulations / Dakar 2016 www.dakar.com
    b) Refuelling out of barrels is forbidden on Road Sections. Refuelling is authorised on Road Sections
    only at the petrol stations, only with local fuel, available from the pump of the petrol station.
    Fuel delivery is allowed only at the Bivouacs or at the petrol stations of the towns of the Bivouacs (Stage
    town).

    c) When there is no petrol station close to the Bivouac, the Organiser will make fuel available at the
    Bivouac, which will be delivered in barrels (Diesel and 95 octane lead-free). Order forms will be sent out
    by the Organiser in September and must be returned by mid-October 2015. Tickets corresponding to
    orders will be given to Competitors at Administrative Checks so that Competitors may obtain fuel at the
    Bivouacs concerned.

    d) For safety reasons, refuelling at the Bivouac can only be done in areas designed and signposted
    by the Organiser. The Competitor must have a fire extinguisher within arm’s reach and be at a
    respectable distance from other Vehicles.
    The responsibility during refuelling is the Competitor’s alone. Engines must be stopped during all
    refuelling.
    The Competitor must remain outside the Vehicle during refuelling.

    e) Refuelling between racing Vehicles is authorised.

    f) The filling of fuel tanks of T1 and T2 diesel Cars can only be made from T4 or T5 Trucks, if the
    fuel tank of the Truck is located outside the bodywork of the Truck, under the Vehicle.
    T5 Trucks can only refuel at the Bivouac.

    g) The failure to respect the clauses listed above will result in penalties up to and including
    Disqualification. Checks will be made.
    31P7 RACE VEHICLE BECOMING A SERVICE VEHICLE
    1) A Crew / Competitor disqualified or having withdrawn must leave the Rally and remove his race
    numbers and “Rally” plates.
    He may continue on to Rosario, through the daily Bivouacs, as a Service Vehicle after having:

     informed the Race Direction, via the Competitors Relations Officers (CRO), or via Iritrack phone;
     contacted the Deputy Clerk of Course in charge of the Service category;
     modified his door and roof race plates;
     obtained the Service Road Book;
     exchanged their Crew’s bracelets with Service bracelets;
     returned his Sarsat distress beacon and his Iritrack to the suppliers;
     returned his race GPS (ERTF). Obligation to rent a GPS from the supplier TRIPY.
    2) He must neither drive nor stop on the Race itinerary on the same day as its passing, nor on days
    preceding its passage. He must respect the instructions stated in this document and conform to the
    Service Vehicles’ Regulations.
    3) Failure to respect these clauses will result in the request for sanctions from the entrants’ National
    Sporting Authority.

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    http://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news...battle-667251/

    Bike class leader Toby Price reckons category honours may be decided by a matter of seconds at the end of the 2016 Dakar Rally.

    The Australian re-took the bike lead on Monday's 393 kilometre stage, turning a three-minute deficit to Paulo Goncalves into a two-minute advantage thanks to an impressive ride across the dunes.

    But Price says there’s still plenty to play out, predicting that the battle between the two will go down to the wire.

    “With Paulo, me and him are battling,” said Price.

    “It's pretty much day-for-day. We take time off each other and I think it's going to come down to minutes and seconds by the end of the week.

    “He's a real strong competitor and he's got a lot more navigation skills than what I do, but we're trying our best and keeping ourselves in front as much as we can.

    “It is a little bit stressful, but once you throw your leg over the bike and you get going, we just have to make sure we make all the right calls and be confident with what we decide to do.”
    Price relishing navigation challenge

    According to Price, it was the move to more traditional technical Dakar roads in the latter part of the day that helped him streak back into the lead.

    “The first part started out with nice big open roads, [I] dropped a little bit of time there but it’s a pretty fast track,” he said.

    “I was looking forward to the second part where it’s more technical and more difficult, [and it] suited me pretty well with the sand dunes there. I did some doubles and triples which makes it pretty fun.

    “[The] last few days I’ve done well with navigation so I’m feeling more confident, but in saying that there’s guys that have raced Dakar for ten years that have made mistakes so we will wait and see.

    “We pushed through and navigated well, which felt good. Everything at the moment feels really good.”

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    I'm hardly surprised it's X Raid kicking up a fuss over the refuelling considering they've been outclassed so far with only one stage win.
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    Live stream again. A++ to this Bolivian commentator as well..
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    crash at 1.40


    Also Toby Price going very well today, 7min on second 10min+ for those behind at WP5
    http://www.trackingdakar.nl/waypoints.php?type=B
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    Toby ripped it today.

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    The Race is Stopped At CP2

    Today's stage was expected to be difficult given the profile of the special. The dunes around Fiambala and the hot temperatures promised a tricky day for the competitors. These concerns soon proved to be true and, in light of the high number of competitors already in difficulty, in particular in the bike category, the race management have taken a logical decision. In order to guarantee maximum safety to the entire field, the race will finish at CP2.


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    Suppose that's the penalty for running in the lower latitudes in summer v Africa in winter at a higher latitude...last year or the year before where the Polish guy died from heat??

    Not related, it's 10 years since Andy Caldecott died too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St00ge View Post
    The Race is Stopped At CP2

    Today's stage was expected to be difficult given the profile of the special. The dunes around Fiambala and the hot temperatures promised a tricky day for the competitors. These concerns soon proved to be true and, in light of the high number of competitors already in difficulty, in particular in the bike category, the race management have taken a logical decision. In order to guarantee maximum safety to the entire field, the race will finish at CP2.

    Yeah it sucks but prolly a wise decision if a high number of competitors are in trouble already. I hate seeing when a rider is in trouble say with heatstroke or altitude sickness like in Bolivia and they want to keep going but their body is just fucked and the medical staff are like telling them we cant let you ride on you're just going to get worse-the look on their face as they realise the dream is over is pretty saddening.

    Ten years since Andy Caldecott's passing? Feels more then a decade. RIP
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    Price leads by 28mins. Damn he's coming home strong. But all it takes is for one wrong turn or mishap to wipe all that out.

    Good to see King Carlos win a stage and Miko Hirvonen was only ten seconds behind him.
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    ^^^ Agreed. Epic ride by Price. Seems his fitness and skills are really shining in these technical and physically tough stages. Really earning it. Hopefully things carry on as they are.

    Going to be a very interesting day in the dunes tomorrow in the cars and bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gxxr View Post
    Suppose that's the penalty for running in the lower latitudes in summer v Africa in winter at a higher latitude...last year or the year before where the Polish guy died from heat??

    Not related, it's 10 years since Andy Caldecott died too.

    Peugeot repair a few down, resources!

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    I still remember exactly where and what I was doing when I was told of A.C’s passing. Such a shame.

    Toby is doing well I really really hope he can pull it off. Last year he had drinks and a get together at a local pub when he got back to Newcastle. Publican is also a former Dakar bike rider. Will see if I can get a pic.
    Very professionally, and with no emotion, Walter spoke: “Los Angeles Center, Aspen 20, can you give us a ground speed check?” There was no hesitation, and the replay came as if was an everyday request. “Aspen 20, I show you at one thousand eight hundred and forty-two knots, across the ground.”

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    Fiambala in style

    The Fiambalá dunes have become one of the decisive stages of the Dakar. This year, they feature at the heart of the most critical rally sequence, when drivers and their vehicles will have to demonstrate their aptitude for extreme endurance. Moreover, the day's stage presents the longest dune section in the shared history of the Dakar and Fiambalá, off-piste for most of the time. In short, an open door for desert specialists.This “super-special section” will be organised using an exceptional starting order: the ten fastest cars, the ten fastest motorbikes and the five fastest trucks will set off together, paving the way for the other competitors.

    Schedule
    Local Time is GMT-3
    Pacific Standard Time is GMT-8
    1st Start (GMT-4) 8:00 am

    Transit
    Bikes: 283 km / 175.8 miles
    Quads: 283 km / 175.8 miles
    Cars: 485 km / 301.4 miles
    Trucks: 237 km / 147.3 miles

    Special Stage
    Bikes: 278 km / 172.7 miles
    Quads: 278 km / 172.7 miles
    Cars: 278 km / 172.7 miles
    Trucks: 431 km / 267.8 miles

    Cars/Trucks





    Bikes/Quads






    Early updates

    08:56 : Cars: Al-Attiyah upside down!
    Nasser Al-Attiyah (Mini) may have seen his hopes go up in smoke. The Qatari is reported to have done a barrel roll 5.85 km into the special. The first part of the car race is very lively, with Van Loon confirmed to have also done a barrel roll some time earlier.

    08:59 : Cars: Sainz losing time
    What a start. Carlos Sainz (Peugeot), the first driver to start today, seems to have run into trouble looking for the first waypoint. He's been overtaken by De Villiers (Toyota) and Hirvonen (Mini) after driving round and round near km 30.


    09:01 : Cars: Al-Attiyah back in the race
    Nasser Al-Attiyah is back on his wheels. The official Mini driver managed to get going after his barrel roll at the start of today's special. However, a big question mark hangs over the condition of his car and whether he'll be able to keep his promise of attacking in the final dune sector of the Dakar.


    09:03 : Cars: a poor start for Sainz!
    Carlos Sainz is having a streak of bad luck in the early part of today's special. The official Peugeot driver suffered a flat tyre while looking for the beacon of the first waypoint. Yet another setback for the provisional leader.


    09:12 : Motorcycles: first riders go through CP1

    Toby Price (KTM) just blasted through CP1. The Aussie overall leader is once again riding at full tilt. His strategy is clear: full steam ahead!

    http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2016/us/s...live-feed.html
    http://www.trackingdakar.nl/live.php

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    random bivouac pics









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    Sheldon Creed disqualified. Had clutch issues and crash damage from being hit by two competitors and decided to skip a few waypoints to try and get home thinking they'd just get time penalties but officials decided to dq them instead. Bit harsh.

    http://www.race-dezert.com/home/shel...ar-133501.html


    Wouldn't have happened if he was French....
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    Everyone would be willing to help if he was French





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    http://www.race-dezert.com/home/dakar-2016

    "Today we witnessed something you don't see too often. 2 guys changing a truck tire within 5 minutes...and by truck we mean the Camiones here at Dakar. They made it look very easy.
    Enjoy the show:"

    "This was a crew of 2. The 3rd person in one of the pictures was a driver from another team briefly helping out."

    Guess they didn't have some ASO officials to help out




















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    TIME FOR AN ATTACK

    The level of difficulty remains the same, but variety will favour the most flexible of drivers and teams. Sand in all its forms will feature, particularly fesh-fesh, the most volatile and heavy kind, which demands both dexterity and patience. But speed will also be an advantage in other, straighter sections, featuring gravel and pebbles. Opportunities will be few and far between, but there is still time to shake up the standings, since the terrain will be favourable to creating significant gaps.

    Schedule
    Local Time is GMT-3
    Pacific Standard Time is GMT-8
    1st Start (GMT-4) 8:00 am

    Transit
    Bikes: 281 km / 174.6 miles
    Quads: 281 km / 174.6 miles
    Cars: 281 km / 174.6 miles
    Trucks: 281 km / 174.6 miles

    Special Stage
    Bikes: 431 km / 267.8 miles
    Quads: 431 km / 267.8 miles
    Cars: 431 km / 267.8 miles
    Trucks: 431 km / 267.8 miles

    Cars/Bike/Truck/Quad



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    Quote Originally Posted by sirhsv View Post
    Yeah it sucks but prolly a wise decision if a high number of competitors are in trouble already. I hate seeing when a rider is in trouble say with heatstroke or altitude sickness like in Bolivia and they want to keep going but their body is just fucked and the medical staff are like telling them we cant let you ride on you're just going to get worse-the look on their face as they realise the dream is over is pretty saddening.

    Ten years since Andy Caldecott's passing? Feels more then a decade. RIP

    Was reading some more, and it seems like all the medical/response crews were basically in use and a case of if shit went wrong for anyone else there was no one left to respond.. So ALOT of people were already in trouble!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by St00ge View Post
    http://www.race-dezert.com/home/dakar-2016

    "Today we witnessed something you don't see too often. 2 guys changing a truck tire within 5 minutes...and by truck we mean the Camiones here at Dakar. They made it look very easy.
    Enjoy the show:"

    "This was a crew of 2. The 3rd person in one of the pictures was a driver from another team briefly helping out."

    Guess they didn't have some ASO officials to help out

    There were officials on scene but seeing as though it wasn't a French team they decided not to intervene to uphold the spirit of the race

    Wankers.

    All Price has to do is basically cruise and stay out of trouble and the crown is his.
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