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    At 11 your getting close to popping it off the beed imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    At 11 your getting close to popping it off the beed imho.

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    My jimny I ran 8psi, LWB Sierra was 3 psi and my wrangler is 10. Never had a bead give way

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    Umm ok. 3 psi with bead locks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    Umm ok. 3 psi with bead locks?

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    Light enough vehicle, strong enough tyre and certain wheels mean you can get away with low pressures without beadlocks in certain condtions.

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    I used to run 3 Psi on my Banshee but it weighed about 150 kilos and had balloon tyres. Im surprised a 4wd can get away with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    At 11 your getting close to popping it off the beed imho.

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    I did used to run 10psi and did pop a bead a couple times. Each time I was probably a little too aggressive with change of direction at speed trying to keep momentum. Never popped a bead at 11psi though. That was on stock 205ís on a 6 inch rim, with wider taller tires I think I could run lower. The X was running 265/75R16 on a 7 inch rim at 14.

    To the OP this discussion in its self letís you know the important of playing with pressures for sand, your most important mod with be a compressor and gauge.


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    Mate got his Disco 4 on 20s bogged on the beach at the Coorong. First time for him taking it onto sand. Waves were hitting the low side wheels and he was stressing a bit. Didn't have a tyre gauge, but I dropped pressures until the rims were just about sitting on the sidewalls of the tyres. Drove it out, no popped bead. Although Land Rover wheels do have a big bead lip.

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    It varies a fair bit. Used to run 8psi in Simex Centerpedes on a Vitara. Now run 18 with a Prado. Could easily go down to 12 with the Prado without issue.

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    The risk of popping a tyre off the rim bead is overblown, it very rarely happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyHusseinXF View Post
    The risk of popping a tyre off the rim bead is overblown, it very rarely happens.
    For real? I think that comment exclusively applies to sand driving and no other forms or 4wding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nine2nine View Post
    For real? I think that comment exclusively applies to sand driving and no other forms or 4wding.
    hah yeah - I was going to add that caveat + the 4 tonne overloaded Patrols / Landcruisers that bounce around the tracks tend to pop them as well but I wouldn't want anyone to feel targeted..
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    Loosely related, noticed on eBay that gecko are doing steel beadlock wheels for $190 for a 16x8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyHusseinXF View Post
    The risk of popping a tyre off the rim bead is overblown, it very rarely happens.
    Funny, the guys I see loosing tyres off their rims on the couple of forums I'm on and youtube channels I watch must be the only guys that have the problem then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsa76 View Post
    Funny, the guys I see loosing tyres off their rims on the couple of forums I'm on and youtube channels I watch must be the only guys that have the problem then.
    Are these the same guys going out of their way to have it happen for dramatic effect and entertainment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyHusseinXF View Post
    The risk of popping a tyre off the rim bead is overblown, it very rarely happens.
    Even though I have popped a bead on more than 1 occasion I tend to agree. Each time I have the tin touched the ground. And each time it was finding the ideal pressure.


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    I find it generally happens when hitting decent rocky rutted hills, generally when backing up.

    8" rims are pretty good and not too common, 10" rims and it's constant and very frustrating if you're with someone that insists on 10" rims because they 'look good'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyHusseinXF View Post
    Are these the same guys going out of their way to have it happen for dramatic effect and entertainment?
    Yeah because they need the drama for their Discovery channel show.

    Big trucks, big weight, rocks and shit, it's going to happen unless you're running beadlocks. They guys that play on rocks are usually the ones to have issues, until they get decent beadlock wheels.
    In saying that, I know a couple of guys who had issues keeping their tyres on even with 15psi. Unique situation though, 255/85R16 tyres on full size dually trucks set up as off road tow trucks. They ended up running double beadlocks in effort to keep the tyres on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    Umm ok. 3 psi with bead locks?

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    No need for bead locks, the car weighed nothing and had rag tyres
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    I am really starting to like my wrangler. Drove 3400km, Katherine-Broome-Katherine on the weekend. Spent a night on the piss and back home for work on Monday.

    Think I might slap some 35s on it if I can work out how to regear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shep View Post
    No need for bead locks, the car weighed nothing and had rag tyres
    Ok that makes semse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shep View Post
    I am really starting to like my wrangler. Drove 3400km, Katherine-Broome-Katherine on the weekend. Spent a night on the piss and back home for work on Monday.

    Think I might slap some 35s on it if I can work out how to regear it.
    Easiest way on JK is aftermarket R&P. In saying that being a Rubicon with the pentastar you could get away with 35ís on stock gearing. You already have a higher 4:11 R&P to suit the stock 32ís and the The 4:1 low range should be enough for most situations, high range will be a little bit of a pain, but they still have enough power to turn 35ís

    If you do go an aftermarket R&P your 4:11ís should be worth something to those wanting 33ís on a stock rig. If it was me though bolt on the 35ís and see how she goes


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    Have been told by the local Jeep guru that 35" tyres on a hard driven JK will bend the axle housings, hence all the aftermarket axle housings, even from MOPAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsa76 View Post
    Have been told by the local Jeep guru that 35" tyres on a hard driven JK will bend the axle housings, hence all the aftermarket axle housings, even from MOPAR.
    You don't need to drive a JK with 890mm OD tyres particularly hard to get up obstacles that the Toyota boys won't even look at, but yeah, bigger tyres and bouncing it around like it's a Patrol will destroy a front diff sooner or later.

    There is however, thousands of JK with large tyres and no problems.
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    Don't rubies get a d44 front diff?

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    Mine isnít a rubicon, just a 3.6 and 6 speed box

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shep View Post
    Mine isnít a rubicon, just a 3.6 and 6 speed box
    For some reason I thought it was a Ruby. In that case you will need to re-gear. A 4.56 R&P will be the easiest. There are a few beef up mods for the stock diffs. The housings can bend but it seems itís more driving style related than tyre size related. Have seen them bend in stock tyres. In any case a truss is easy enough to fit


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    I just saw the new Jimny's. I want one!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vet 180 View Post
    For some reason I thought it was a Ruby. In that case you will need to re-gear. A 4.56 R&P will be the easiest. There are a few beef up mods for the stock diffs. The housings can bend but it seems itís more driving style related than tyre size related. Have seen them bend in stock tyres. In any case a truss is easy enough to fit


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    A mate that's gone full moab spec on his jku blew the front diff in the dunes, then bent it completely in one of SA's finest pot holes. He then got his shop to quote a new genuine diff to the insurance company, then spent the cheque on a custom d44 from the states. I think it was actually cheaper than the stock diff through Jeep aus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    I just saw the new Jimny's. I want one!!!!!!

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    should have the 1.4 turbo instead of the 1.5 NA, would make it epic.

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    The want is high.

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