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    I never had any luck with project mu on heavy cars.

    If you donít have any luck, I found winmax 7s worked much better.

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    Fark $5500 in labour, I thought the Lightyear did all his own work?

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    I would have liked to get a VS too. But the VN/VP is a little more coolerer. I will do a test day most likely at Sandown soon, and be sure to check the pads. Winmax can be the next pad. I think the brake set up should work well now.
    I do do my own work on the MX5's, but with this car I wanted to make sure it finishes races. Track/Sprint cars don't need to run flat out for as long, plus it's only your best time that counts. To finish first, first you have to finish...
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    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    Went Winmax after that incident with the Pulsar mate but it was slow and light in comparison - there's plenty of great pads out there, just do your homework.

    You're right though. There's something just super cool about VN's. That Brocky qualifying lap still gets me excited... LOL !
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    That lap pops up on Facebook every week. And you just have to watch it every time.
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    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    If i had a dollar for everytime i've watched it i reckon i'd have several hundred dollars...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy View Post
    BTW - Take the Project Mu pads and throw the cunts as far away as possible.
    Instead of saying "Brand X pads are shit", why don't you tell us which compound and the max temp they went to? I've heard and read "Brand X pads are shit" comments about nearly every brand of brake pad ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondo2000 View Post
    Instead of saying "Brand X pads are shit", why don't you tell us which compound and the max temp they went to? I've heard and read "Brand X pads are shit" comments about nearly every brand of brake pad ever made.
    This is a forum on the internetz
    We have no time for your facts and logic.
    Project MU can eat a dick

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    They would want to work, they are not cheap.
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    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    I wasnít a happy camper
    Spoke to the rep, stated the car power track etc.
    $800 plus dollars later 1/2 race meeting pads completely gone

    Winmax Rep said the w7 should work. Easily got 4 race meetings out of them.

    Option one garage purchased the car off me upped the boost and the driver. Still same feed back on the pads.

    Get the feeling the pads from the project mu range where a good track day pad but not really up for 10-15 laps at a time.

    But Iíve heard of people eating w7s as well.

    Iím sure you will be fine.

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    I have PMU in my old bus running in State Race series and don't have a problem

    Heat is a pad-killer and that is weight and rotor thickness related

    What pads are being used successfully if not PMU or WinMax

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    I have never had any problems with Hawk pads, the hawk plus in my MX5 for road and track days, and the DT70 pads in my old 240z prod sports. The only problem with the DT70's were they ate rotors.

    I would get on set if rotors to 2 sets of pads,but being TP magna rotors cost wasn't an issue.

    I found the cheapest and easiest way to get them was online at hawkpadsdirect.com

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    I have been using Porterfield R4 pads on a Commodore that runs in the State Championship and haven't had any problems with them. Great pad life and very easy on the rotors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondo2000 View Post
    Instead of saying "Brand X pads are shit", why don't you tell us which compound and the max temp they went to? I've heard and read "Brand X pads are shit" comments about nearly every brand of brake pad ever made.
    Apologies Roland. There was a thread here that had to get removed after shit got nasty...
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    I have been thinking about selling this. I haven't driven it since August, and all I have done is spent money on it. But before I decide if I will sell it, I am going to put the new pads in, make some ducting for the heat exchangers and brakes, clean it up and take it out to a track day for some time behind the wheel. I booked in a track day with the WRX club at P.I on the 1st of July. I never planned on spending this much on a race car, and in reality it's more than I can afford to loose if something went wrong. Probably still needs another $10k spent before I would be happy with it. I also haven't got the new heavier rate springs in to see what difference they make. It's a bit softly sprung at the moment.
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    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    Anyone used Carbotech pads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    Anyone used Carbotech pads?
    I think Cal uses them on his mx5.

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    Hopefully after driving it, it reignites your desire to keep it a while longer, enjoy it for a while and record some good lap times.

    Will most probably be at the wrx day too unless something drastic happens, just waiting on some brake pads to arrive. Going to try some pagid rs29 f and winmax w5 r. See you there.

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    Round 1 is at PI next weekend. Just saying

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    I can't make the VicV8 round next weekend, Dad is having a big 70th bash. Bad timing... It may seem rude to not go as people are flying in from all over the place.
    I need to get some wide wheels and tyres again for VicV8 rounds, these skinny(er) hard compound slicks just don't have the grip that the car had originally. I would prefer to keep it and do the rest of this year at least. It's only done 2 race rounds, so there is plenty of life left in it.

    I will be at P.I on the 1st and the 8th. So most likely see a few guys down there.
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    NA8B 89KW- P.I. 1:50.1, WNTN1:38.0, SDWN 1:27.6, WKFLD 1:10.4
    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    I will try and keep this short, like my day yesterday.
    I rock up, then go to sign on, but forgot my club membership card, so they sent me away. I look in the car and toolbox, etc no go. So line up again and try finding a solution. As a last resort I txt nopics and ask her to look at home and take a pic. Luckily she finds it and they accept it.
    Stage 1 complete.
    Getting the car started took around an hour I think. I pulled the plugs eventually and tried cleaning them, it really needed new ones, they where black and wet. It started after I cleaned them, and ran fine all day. But it's never easy to start, will need to go back to the tuners.
    Session 1 had no dry line, and I was on slicks that hadn't been driven on since August. Don't need to explain this one.
    Session 2 had bad traffic and the brake pedal is now rock solid and doesn't hit the floor anymore. That's amazing.. But the pads had seen better days and wouldn't pull up. So I pulled out the pads, one had no material on half of it, and about 1mm on the rest. The new pads are too big, so what do you do? Spend 25 minutes with a grinder and make them the right size.
    Session 3 was bed them in. But when I came back in we noticed big cracks in the rotors. Some said it's unsafe to go again, but I had to take the chance.
    Session 4 was the do or die run. I lined up early, but they made us start the cars and move over, the car took a minute to start, and a few cars went by. On the 5th lap I was on a flyer, but I was slowed by around 2 seconds when I caught 3 cars into Luke. 1:44 was a good sign. Got to start finish and no chequered flag, woo hoo, it's on. Balls to the wall, but they got squashed by 2 WRX's doing about 150km/h into turn 1. Fuck.. So had to drive from the right side, then wait for the red WRX to move left. Cost me around 1 full second according to racechrono. I proceeded uninterrupted for the rest of the lap and did a 1:43.8. I didn't get it perfect, didn't brake too hard knowing the brake rotors could fail at any minute and lost a second at turn one. So it shows the car can do and easy 1:42 or less. These hard compounds are no better than R specs. So another second with medium compound.
    Last edited by lightyear; 02-07-18 at 07:56 AM.
    NA8B 89KW- P.I. 1:50.1, WNTN1:38.0, SDWN 1:27.6, WKFLD 1:10.4
    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    The other crack is twice as wide, but didn't see it straight away. Both rotors are the same.
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    NB8B 181KW- P.I 1:43.8, WNTN 1:32.9, SDWN 1:22.0, BDFD 1:05.3
    VP 293KW- P.I 1:43.8 WNTN 1:33.5

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    Fark!! Need pinned floating rotors

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    Fark, no way I would have gone out on those. Surprised you weren't stopped.

    Are you having a crank trigger issue?
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    You forgot to mention the broken wing mount. Can't believe you went out on those rotors and set that sort of time. Couldn't even stay anywhere near you on the out lap on cold slicks. You are a mad man.

    So, are you going to keep this thing for a while longer now that it's shown its potential?

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    I'd be re-thinking that disc arrangement ASAP.

    Fuck that noise.

    Good job on the time, though. Hope you persist with it.
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    Lightyear what brake calipers are you running?

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    Must of been cracked rotor day yesterday. I had checked mine after we saw yours and they where fine. Checked again this morning and the rears are both cracked, not as bad as yours. Must have happened in the last session.

    These rotors have had a lot of track use and have seen around 10 sets of brake pads. Definitely got my moneys worth.


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    That is one fucked rotor, glad you are still with us Lightyear
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