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    Toyota Supra 2017? bullshit or possible?

    http://www.bestcarzin.com/reviews/20...ase-date-price

    if so will make the 86 as unwanted as a porsche 924
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    Quote Originally Posted by datso View Post
    http://www.bestcarzin.com/reviews/20...ase-date-price

    if so will make the 86 as unwanted as a porsche 924
    The price of 2017 Toyota Supra was not revealed but we can assume that new sports car will be more expensive than Chevrolet Corvette.
    not sure 86 buyers and supra buyers would be choosing between the two.

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    If it does come out, hope it looks like the prototype. Not like the 86 where they had one of the few protos that looked bombed and then released something a bit more tame.

    Can't see it making it's way to AUS/Japan that quickly though, given it is a Toyota US project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by datso View Post
    http://www.bestcarzin.com/reviews/20...ase-date-price

    if so will make the 86 as unwanted as a porsche 924
    The only thing that article has correct is that BMW and Toyota are platform sharing the next Supra/Z4.

    The AE86 will still be a budget car. The Supra never was and won't be. Better question will be where in the US market will it be placed not to eat into Lexus coupe sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadsailing View Post
    not sure 86 buyers and supra buyers would be choosing between the two.
    Being a bit more than Corvette would mean it'll sit pretty much bang in the middle of GT86 and Lexus LC500, which makes sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by datso View Post
    http://www.bestcarzin.com/reviews/20...ase-date-price

    if so will make the 86 as unwanted as a porsche 924
    I imagine it will be at least double the price (ie $60k plus), so no.

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    More like 80K I reckon.

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    2017 Supra less relevant than the 2016 NSX?
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    Surely this will be GTR priced, if not 911 Turbo priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uz-zte View Post
    2017 Supra less relevant than the 2016 NSX?
    likely ~$100k versus plus $400k is kinda like comparing apples and wombats though?

    anything above 3 figures on the Supra and I do agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    Surely this will be GTR priced, if not 911 Turbo priced.
    The new GTRs are $250k... that's an insane price for these cars.
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    Will it be more than a retail priced Ferrari? Which I also cannot afford. Pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uz-zte View Post
    The new GTRs are $250k... that's an insane price for these cars.
    Even the Nismo model is only $227k. Base level is now "Premium" at $189k.

    A long way short of $250k!

    Toyota would like to be aiming to for the Supra to compete with the GTRs.... but it does seem like a long shot considering GTRs these days.

    I reckon Supras will be priced around M3 money ($140k)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Ed View Post
    Even the Nismo model is only $227k. Base level is now "Premium" at $189k.

    A long way short of $250k!

    Toyota would like to be aiming to for the Supra to compete with the GTRs.... but it does seem like a long shot considering GTRs these days.

    I reckon Supras will be priced around M3 money ($140k)
    M3s aren't really $140k these days when they have a small number of options. They're pushing $170-180k. Not the list price, but the real price when you drive out.

    The Supra/NSX/GTR are all the same market. So would be around a similar price.
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    Destined to fail like all the AU delivered Supras.

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    Z4's arent pricey but considering the hybrid and engine technology the Supra will have + 2dr Tax, Id be suprised if they were anything less than $89K plus onroads

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX19X View Post
    Destined to fail like all the AU delivered Supras.
    Australia is a pretty different place today than it was in what.... 1990?
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    M3s aren't really $140k these days when they have a small number of options. They're pushing $170-180k. Not the list price, but the real price when you drive out.

    The Supra/NSX/GTR are all the same market. So would be around a similar price.
    Expect this (from my experience doing pricing at the big T)
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    6 figures absolute minimum IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gats View Post
    6 figures absolute minimum IMO.
    For sure. I mean, that's a base price for a (proper) performance car these days isn't it? Even HSV operate really in the +$100k range.
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    Surely not. The market for six figure sports cars is tiny, but there is almost nothing in the $60-100k range. That would be the sweet spot to target IMHO: basically people who have an 86 and now have more money/people who might have bought a Z if they weren't a decade old.

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    What? The Clubsport is $70-80k. Only the GTS is over $100k and I doubt many actually pay that price as plenty of new stock listed for ~$90k.
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    People forget that $150-200k isn't that much money these days, especially with lease rates at very low levels. There is a huge amount of wealth in major cities such as Sydney and Melbourne, particularly given the rise in house prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rona View Post
    What? The Clubsport is $70-80k. Only the GTS is over $100k and I doubt many actually pay that price as plenty of new stock listed for ~$90k.
    What's HSV got to do with anything? Totally different market.

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    We should probably just change the year on this thread every so often. I'm fairly sure there's been a 2014/2015/2016 Supra thread as well.

    My prediction is it will be delayed three years, be slightly shit, and be priced at $150k. Three people will buy one, they will hold their value well but then the market will be flooded with cheap imports following the 2018 rule changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsnotagsr View Post
    People forget that $150-200k isn't that much money these days, especially with lease rates at very low levels. There is a huge amount of wealth in major cities such as Sydney and Melbourne, particularly given the rise in house prices.
    Just for the sake of it, I just ran the numbers on a 718 Cayman S ($150k-ish) for 3 years with 20,000km pa. Came out at just over $700 a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Purple View Post
    We should probably just change the year on this thread every so often. I'm fairly sure there's been a 2014/2015/2016 Supra thread as well.

    My prediction is it will be delayed three years, be slightly shit, and be priced at $150k. Three people will buy one, they will hold their value well but then the market will be flooded with cheap imports following the 2018 rule changes.
    theres been "NEW SUPRA!!!" rumours and magazine articles pretty much every year since the JZA80 went out of production

    in other words - move along people, nothing to see here...

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    Yeah except its real this time, has been some official announcements. It wont be 2017 though, Id expect 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Slow View Post
    What's HSV got to do with anything? Totally different market.
    In reply the 1uz post claiming HSVs were over $100k.
    If in doubt power out

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    Quote Originally Posted by perthdrivers.txt View Post
    theres been "NEW SUPRA!!!" rumours and magazine articles pretty much every year since the JZA80 went out of production

    in other words - move along people, nothing to see here...
    Pretty sure this exact same article was linked in a thread when the writer first invented it last April.
    Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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