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    They are bound to be worth a couple of lizards on Gumtree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trent from punchy View Post
    Anyone want some good looking but old Pirelli Demon bike tyres?
    keep them for Summernats burnout comp...
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    You could always use some of the the softener the kart use. Demons were pretty hard when new too.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    Check them on Gumtree for $20 with "unknown age" and some struggler will buy them. I sure as fuck wouldn't use them, had the same near death experience on my CB400 due to old shit tyres that looked fine, thankfully kept it upright and didn't pull an Ed
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    How much are tires there? I just paid $131 for a new rear for the Ducati, surely 250cc tires are cheaper than that.

    7-year old tires will be hard as fuck and a little bit dangerous. And, probably, flatspotted

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    Would be lucky to find a decent pair of tyres sub $300 in oz. Tyres for a 150 are not significantly cheaper unless you're talking Cheng Shin or Flying Triangle or something, although some Shinkos are actually ok.
    I'd lay money on the tyres being 10+ years old. There will be a date code on the sidewall.

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    These guys have Dunlop tt900s for a good price in the right sizes:
    https://motorcycletyrewarehouse.com....70-17-14070-17
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    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    If you actually intend to throw this thing at some corners do not skimp on good rubber because you will end up on your face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FioriGuy View Post
    Check them on Gumtree for $20 with "unknown age" and some struggler will buy them. I sure as fuck wouldn't use them, had the same near death experience on my CB400 due to old shit tyres that looked fine, thankfully kept it upright and didn't pull an Ed
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    These Michelins look like the go for $280ish.

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    I did my L's on one of these. Good little bikes. Next time you're loading a sportbike onto a ute/trailer, don't run the straps up under the fairing like that. Go straight over the top and hook them over the top triple (near where you put the key in). One strap left, one strap right, secure the rear and you're done. Leave it in gear so it won't roll (I used to strap the tailgate shut on my ute which held the rear in real nice).

    If you want super grippy tyres I'm pretty sure you can get Pirelli Supercorsa's in sizes small enough, bit pricey though.
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    Like dis. Front straps over triples, rear hooked through rearset heel plates with the front strap 'tail' tied off on the rear strap and vice versa (just to stop them flapping around in the wind).

    Another set of straps holding the tailgate shit. Driven interstate like this many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Ed View Post
    I just realised who you are. Why'd you make a new account and whats the story with your Triumph? You owe me a ride cunt.
    Simon changed the email + password on the old one. It's in storage in Sydney, once i'm back come ride

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    im surprised nobody noticed how you measured your discs, measure more along the disc with the cutout of the calipers over the lip that will be on the outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Et! View Post
    im surprised nobody noticed how you measured your discs, measure more along the disc with the cutout of the calipers over the lip that will be on the outside.
    Yeah probably right. There is a very slight lip.
    But could be enough.




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    when you most discs are only have .5mm - 1.0mm wear from new to bin its worth doing it a bit more accurately. Also probably don't use something like supercorsa SC tyres unless you are going to spend 100% of your time on the race track, there are far better road tyres out there and you must be honest with what you do with the bike, a good road tyre will provide better grip than a slick (or cut slick like the SC), in ~97% of road situations.

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    Here's how we stand now.

    Most of the major parts are all and ready for cleaning, repair, or replacement.


    The carbs concern me a little. I'm worried that Ill break them coming off.


    radiator fan is toast.
    Hard to find a new cheap one.


    Pillion pegs are pretty rusty, soaking in vinegar now.


    Enkei wheels

    Also worked out the tyres are 2008 and 2005. Way too old.
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    With the fairings off and it stripped down a little, you really can see just how much better the engineering is on these (despite being nearly 30 years old) than the current LAMS bikes. Look at the twin spar aluminium frame, aluminium swingarm, decent rear suspension, proper brakes. Cleary from back when manufacturers actually gave a shit about this class rather than going with the cheapest thing they can bring to market. Bit sad really.


    Quote Originally Posted by Et! View Post
    . Also probably don't use something like supercorsa SC tyres unless you are going to spend 100% of your time on the race track, there are far better road tyres out there and you must be honest with what you do with the bike, a good road tyre will provide better grip than a slick (or cut slick like the SC), in ~97% of road situations.

    Hmm, not sure I agree on regular road tyres being better than a Supercorsa or Racetec in 97% of situations. Depends where you ride and how fast I guess. In Adelaide a cut slick is better 97% of the time because it only rains about 3% of the time, the rest of the time the cut slick will outperform any regular road tyre (unless it's super cold and they're not up to temp- again, not often super cold in Adelaide).

    If I didn't have Racetec's on the R1 when I wrote it off (Hyundai pulled out on me) I'd probably be dead.

    In Sydney I can understand that thinking a little more as the roads are absolutely shit and when it rains, it really rains and you end up with quite deep standing water which cut slicks don't get on with at all.
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    Try and find a good online parts catalog with all the cross-references. Honda seemed to use basic parts across a huge range of models - might help with fans and stuff.
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    with a tyre like a supercorsa SC (not the SP) you need to keep heat in the carcass of the tyre, which on the road is near on impossible to do when you are riding traffic light to traffic light. You may be able to keep them up to temp in the mountains but the moment you're not heavily accelerating and braking they will quickly lose heat leading to cold tearing, and if your tyre is cold tearing its not going to be gripping as well as it could, and it will be bin material well before it should be.

    I think its more of a psychological thing thinking that the most gucci race tyres will be suitable on the road, the SC is just a pirelli superbike slick with small cuts to meet race regs that need "DOT" approved tyres, and the Racetecs are built by pirelli so I can imagine its probably somewhat the same recipe.

    Unless I had an equipment failure at the track and couldn't sort it out I wouldn't ride without warmers because It chews tyres and is dangerous for the first couple of laps, what makes you think it would be any different on the road. Not trying to be a cunt but even without it raining at all you will have less grip way more than you think and you are throwing money away for the privilege.

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    Obviously on a street bike you would run the Supercorsa SP/Metzeler Racetec trackday.

    That said, even the SC1/SC2 and K1/K2 (soft/med) aren't at all bad without warmers. You can absolutely go knee down right from dead cold. You'll get cold tearing which will reduce the life of the tyre but they can absolutely do it.

    I replaced the OEM tyres on my R1 with the Metzeler Racetec 'trackday' on the front (odd name for their street compound like the SP) and the K3 'hard' on the rear on the street and they were great. Much better than the OEM tyres in all basically all conditions other than heavy rain.

    But yeah, for the OP's little Blade a set of street tyres will be fine. From memory not heaps of tyre manufacturers actually make decent sports tyres in that size though whereas I know you can get Supercorsas.
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    Yeah I agree that a the street compounds of each are far better tyres than most OEMs. For the OPs wee CBR i'm pretty sure continental do a few good hoops, Bridgestone BT003, might be able to get a dunlop Q3 and i'm sure there are a few more. If you are chasing carb seals get on to Litetek, with the Rad fan im pretty sure that will cross reference to another bunch of bikes.

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    Perfect, thanks.

    https://www.bike-parts-honda.com

    VTR250 parts seem a lot cheaper
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    No carb day.
    I was in two minds about taking the carbs off.
    The bike really only has 25,000kms on it, and the oil looks spectacularly clear, but the fuel was mud.

    Taking a look into the throttles they were super clean, as were the intake ports when looking deep in.


    Still, while I have everything off, and waiting for parts to come from downtown Shenzhen, I thought let's give it ago.

    I was about to stab it with a screwdriver, but today, success. Lots of wiggling back and forth, and finally they popped off.





    So this is how they are inside.




    Do I need a full service kit? Or just seals?
    Will they need balancing after that?



    oh, some bike pr0n.
    Spotted this nice MT09 at lunch.
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    Strip, clean, check floats and needles, new gaskets, replace fuel line, all fluids, filters, plugs, discs, pads, brake lines, tyres, fork seals, it might have 25,000ks on it but it's been rotting into the ground for 7 years that you know of. Treat it like a 25yo bike. There's a reason I only offered you $1000.

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    my go to with shitbox bikes that i always seem to buy and don't wanna spend money on is using a tin of threebond upper engine cleaner, made a zxr250 that had been living under a deck covered in shit for at least 5 years start and idle like a dream without taking anything apart.

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    anyway, back to the Cibie, (what do I call it?)

    I have 3 options with the carbs.

    1. Clean em out and reassemble as is.
    2. clean em out and replace all seals: $50



    3. replace all jets/mainseal. $140



    I guess it wasn't too bad taking them off.
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    Replace seals with the Viton set - needle jet won't have been worn oval by the needle yet.
    The original seals will piss fuel - they *may* soften up and stop leaking after a couple of days of pissing fuel everywhere, but just put the green viton through them.
    Suprisingly minty fresh looking carbs - looks like they've run the bowls dry rather than letting it sit with fuel in them.
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    i'd replace the rubber manifolds between the carbs and the head as well, air leaks are a cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Et! View Post
    i'd replace the rubber manifolds between the carbs and the head as well, air leaks are a cunt.
    Yeah, good call - if they're available - Honda don't have a good rep for supporting shit that's older than 15 years.

    And since when is a bog stock MT09 "porn"?
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    yeah interface rubbers are available, not super cheap though.

    heh, stock modded same same.
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