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    Put a fan behind you and do it outside, it's itchy as fuck. We use normal high speed steel twist drills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALLMTR View Post
    How much would the 117 option added?
    seen lot of the US guys making 110-115hp and 125ft lb! pretty good.

    Harley heaven have a special $3699 fitted in May, thinking of doing it.

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    What sort of quarter mile times does 110hp equal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMuz View Post
    What sort of quarter mile times does 110hp equal?
    pretty open ended question, but mid to low 11's. The shop has a 14.5:1 compression 120ci FXDLS making near 150hp and cant crack the 10's because it either spins to 200m or wheelies and has to back off.

    Even with my paltry power, the torque means 1st gear is a write off when launching from a set of lights. Can only get traction when clicking 2nd and even then if it's a flat change it steps out on you. Fun but not fast.

    Need to work on the tune more, I think there is a lot more in it than that. I was hoping for mid 90's and 115+ torque, but every dyno is different.

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    Yeah that's pretty good actually. My sporty would run out of revs on a quarter with the massive sprocket on the back but I figured low 12s.
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    I've hired a dyno tomorrow and will be spending all day on the tune.

    I'm hoping for mid 90's hp and 110ft lb or more for a good spread of the rpm range.

    **NERD STORY BELOW**

    I've noticed that my bike was very difficult to start when hot. Auto compression release was set on On in the tune however it was my belief that the output was not toggling the ACR's at all. If you switched the ACR to off the bike started no different to when they are on. This got me thinking that there was something wrong with the Base Calibration that are loaded onto these bikes.

    After dealing with some guys in the states and reviewing their tune files there was definitely a few discrepancies between the two tunes in stock configuration. I fired a few emails to HD Aus to show them, the replied saying they will check with HQ in USA and advise of further info.

    Long story short, The Aus calibration has a few variables in the tune that differ from the USA Bikes I presume for emmisions. In those deep embedded tables that cannot be viewed in WinPV or SERT the ACR's are indeed a 0 instead of a 1 and do not work at all even if toggled. I tested this theory by using a USA tune with the "621" calibration, copied and pasted my VE/Spark/Misc tables over and the bike now whirs into life like it's been on a jumper pack. There is also a loud audible click of the ACR's engaging when the ignition is switched on.

    Because of my inquisitive nature most likely a recall will need to be done on all 2016-17 FXDLS in Aus lol. I'm waiting for a reply on that front but I doubt they will go to that extent. I don't care now I have the USA base calibration but for a lot of others with problems like mine it's something that should be addressed.

    I've complained numerous times to my dealership about hard starting, each time got told "oh it's a big motor bro" or "keep it on the trickle charger" and they think that will get me off their case. Never underestimate the ability of a bored cunt who works nightshifts and tinkers.

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    For someone that works in dealership world you are that pain in the arse customer that wants to know everything aren't you lol.

    I hate them ones. I walk away mumbling
    "Just buy the fucking thing and fuckoff. Here have a stubbie holder, please leave. I don't care that your brothers cousins aunty has one that uses less fuel. Try a polarizer.."
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    Yep. Like I said, I got a lot of free time and a engineering background, knowing how/why things work is ingrained in me.

    Call it a pain in the ass, I call it "inquisitive" lol

    when a guy off the street can prove their product has a design flaw without their knowledge that's got to be a bitter pill to swallow I imagine. If anything comes from it then I hope it solves a few others out there with the same issues as mine.
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    Yeah i agree, passionate customers are the best for that sort of stuff. Still known as "the pain in the arse" though lol
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    95hp 114ft lb not bad at all.

    Torque dip at 2k-3k rpm filled in makes it way more responsive now. The cams sign off just too early to build any serious power.

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    I'd kill for some sort of compression release most days haha. But if thats the only 'issue' you've had so far, then you're laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fat910 View Post
    I'd kill for some sort of compression release most days haha. But if thats the only 'issue' you've had so far, then you're laughing.
    yeah it's not the end of the world, But considering this bike cost 3x what my car does you sort of want something that will start lol.

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    Things slowly happening with this bike. Mostly been part procurement. I know the end goal of what I want the bike to be, unfortunately the goal I have is a damn expensive one.

    The theme of the bike is really going to be performance based. I ride with a group of boys with bikes that range from full blown superbikes to BMW adventure bikes and anything in between. One thing that has peaked my interest is shocking the shit out of people in the twisties with how capable this bike is. Obviously when the road opens up I get smoked but the run I do 2-3 times a week is a lot of 2nd and 3rd gear stuff and with the stupid amount of torque this bike has it's a real weapon.

    I've come to the limits of the suspension, I'm happy with it's performance whilst commuting for sure but the ground clearance is just not enough. So moving up to 13 inch shocks, drop in fork cartridges and adjustable preload inserts.

    Few companies who do this, preferably would like to do it in a kit, but leaning towards Ohlins and Racetech or Legend.

    The brakes are very good but coming from a MX background I really prefer 1 finger braking, will be upgrading to Hardcase performance oversized rotors to get me there.

    Powerwise it's good, but the cam in this bike signs off way too soon. I have to short shift at 4krpm or I'm making losing power. A change to a cam with a lot of torque but a profile that will hold the curve until much later in the rpm range would be great. Whilst I'm in the cam chest will upgrade the cam bearings to Timkens and do the Aftermarket cam plate for better oiling.

    I think a lifter is going sour aswell which is common with these 110's, Beleive it or not HD use GM LS lifters in these things!

    Paint I've decided on Audi Nardo Grey. It's slightly lighter than Lambo Grigio Telesto and easier to get.

    Wheels will be blacked out. Saddleman seat and Lucky daves 12 inch MX bars on it.

    I did the air filter today, got rid of the whales cock filter and put on an externally vented DK customs 606.


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    Sounds like a decent plan. With the grey, will you just go solid colour on the bike or use something else to break it up? I know mine looked bland in a solid colour that's all.
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    yeah I need to speak to smithy about that, The tank will definately be broken up.

    Main background will be grey and the scallop same as the regular Low Rider, but with Red Font I'm thinking.


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    One of my bosses has one of these with a 117ci in it, went 11.1@118 the other week, never realised they went that hard and also rips a mean power skid. Very cool bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNaf View Post
    One of my bosses has one of these with a 117ci in it, went 11.1@118 the other week, never realised they went that hard and also rips a mean power skid. Very cool bikes.
    Nice.

    I'm seriously contemplating the 117 kit. It seems to get great numbers with the right exhaust and tune. If my tax return is a good one I might put the money towards the kit and hope one of the dealers do a 20% off like they do once a year or so.

    I'm keen to see what I'll do down the quarter with 95hp. I reckon there's an easy 12 there just depends on traction and my skill.

    And yeah they skid good. Like stupid easy if the tyres are cold. No clutch required.

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    Pretty sure the current deal for the 117 kit is about $4.5k-ish from Harley dealers.

    Just found out about the 2018 model range last night too. No more V-Rods, Street Bob, Fat Bob and Low Rider are now Softails. Doesn't seem to be anymore Dynasty. New Fat Boy looks noice.
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    Pro: I got this pretty photo of the bike tongiht
    con: the cunts fucked and fucked a lifter :| 5000km's on it lol


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    Time for more power?

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    Gotta open the can chest to get to the lifters

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    Probably have to replace the barrels and pistons, and maybe the crank, as well. That's a shit.

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    Wouldn't this all be under warranty anyway?
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    Yeah it is. Goes in on Thursday.

    If the lifter has failed (not pumping up) don't really need to replace much. I'll get them to inspect the cam though most defiantly.

    If a needle bearing has failed and escaped into the nether regions then they give me a new donk. Not accepting anything less then that.

    Could be something different all together too. But the lifters are a known weakness.

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    Just heard back from dealer, lifter(s) is bad. Been replaced.

    I've asked them to check crank runout too while it's apart, for reference. Hopefully have it back by Tuesday.

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    All is well, one of the front cylinder (cant remember Intake or exhaust) lifters wasn't pumping up properly. It would get oil to the head, just not as fast as designed.

    Dismantled the whole camchest whilst the cover was off, oil pump checked out OK, no scoring on cam lobes, no debris.

    Crank runout well within spec but it's still not fantastic IMO. (0.004") they should be manufactured better.

    Anyway, it's all buttoned up now, these things are like Lego basically. If adjustable pushrods were used this would have only taken 1.5-2 hours. But because the pushrods are "perfect fit" the tank and rocker covers have to come off.

    Leak Down test: 2%F 2%R (max 15%)
    Compression test 220F/220R (200-220psi)
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    No cam upgrade while it was apart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotor7 View Post
    No cam upgrade while it was apart?

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    nothing from HD that suits these 110 engines with the low compression ratio unfortunately. Once it's upped to 10:1 there is options though.

    I could have put a 259e cam in, but it would lose a ton of torque. Plus to keep warranty they would need to tune it. I use powervision, they use the Screamin Eagle programmer. So there is another $1400 for not much gain at all.

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    Yeah right i just assumed there would be something suitable on the shelf. That was the impression my local shop gave me. Ive got a SE tuner on mine just cause warranty.

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    Just ordered a set of Ohlins HD 215's. This one hurt the bank account.

    Will be custom built by motorcycle metal in the states, he is considered the Ohlins guru so should be in good hands.

    For ohlins nerds the build will be considered a custom with designation "S36PR1C1LB"

    S - Single tube Piston diameter
    36 - Piston diameter: 36 mm
    P - Monotube high pressure gas type of shock absorber with external “piggy back” reservoir.
    R1- Adjustable rebound damping on single tube shocks. Adjuster wheel above the end eye.
    C1 - Adjustable compression damping. Adjuster wheel or slot on the reservoir.
    L - Adjustable length. (+-10mm from 340mm)
    B - Integrated hydraulic spring preload adjuster. Adjuster wheel or hexagon on the adjuster.

    I really wanted to do the NIX22 Fork cartridge at the same time but simply cant afford it.


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