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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Awesome, cheers for all the input guys. Some really good suggestions, and a lot of shit I would not have thought of.
    Liking the sound of a stagea a bit more now knowing things can be done to them.
    Auto caldinas are going for less then 6k, not sure if the autos can handle spirited driving and HP or if it will want to turn it self inside out at the suggestion of a hard launch etc.
    Wouldn't the Nissan be a better bet, seeing as everything is Skyline compatible, as opposed to some obscure Toyota?
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    Being an owner of both the Caldina and the Stagea, the Stagea is a better car

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    Yeah, logic draws me towards the stagea, but curiosity of the obscure pulls me towards the "gt4 in a Cardigan".
    At this point in time, logic and an anxiety of having to try and find parts for a caldina, make the stagea the family hauler of choice.

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    Hmm now I want a stagea again
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    You could go over the top obscure and a Crown.



    https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/d...4360994/?Cr=19

    1J-JZE should be fairly trouble free, leaving you money to fix electrics.

    Plus Velour!



    $6k max should be a bit of a stretch. Though I sold my '88 1GGZE Wagon for $3k a few years back.
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    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...SSE-AD-4556541

    Something manual in wagon form from the Alfa stable? Wrong wheel drive though. And potentially unreliable?!

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    Fuck those crown wagons are sexual. But the concept of trying to find something like headlight in AUS makes me want to curl up in the fetal position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Yeah, logic draws me towards the stagea, but curiosity of the obscure pulls me towards the "gt4 in a Cardigan".
    At this point in time, logic and an anxiety of having to try and find parts for a caldina, make the stagea the family hauler of choice.
    Yeah, if parts availability is something that makes you hyperventilate, don't go the Caldina.
    For example, they're known to chew wheel bearings. I've done 3 on mine in about as many years, and they're reasonably hard to get. The most reliable source I've found is Febest on eBay.

    Stagea also known for wheel bearings, but they're the same as a recent Maxima.
    A lot of shit on the M35 is the same as a lot of Aussie delivered stuff, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm DJ! View Post
    SO there's a few options. Is auto / Manual an issue here?

    How about the Pug Turbo Wagon:

    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...-1042850/?Cr=9

    Or the venerable favourite (and I would buy this just to viggen the shit out of it and put bikes on the roof) Saab Turbo Wagoon

    https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/d...13871674/?Cr=2

    As mentioned above the Stagea is a good thing, Broadhurst's was a lovely place to be

    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...-4496254/?Cr=5

    2.0 litre turbo passat - this says auto, dunno if it has the DSG aids?

    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...-4564332/?Cr=1

    Audi a4, only has the 1.8 turbo but could be a goer with a bit of a tickle

    https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/d...14176706/?Cr=0

    Edit: or the littler motor saab - there's three of these to choose from but I like the pimp white leather in this mofo;

    https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...-4496480/?Cr=1
    The Pug is the low pressure 1.6 turbo, not the most exciting thing around. Especially with the 4 speed auto, even the 6 speed EGS is better, and it's stupid.
    The only Saabs wagons worth looking at are Aeros.

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    Stag is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Fuck those crown wagons are sexual. But the concept of trying to find something like headlight in AUS makes me want to curl up in the fetal position.
    It's not too bad. I managed to get hold of a NOS taillight within a week just by searching Yahoo auctions for mine, and mine was older and way more obscure than these.

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    Yeah I'd love rare and obscure. But I like the ease of availability with the stagea. Just need to sell a patrol now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cock Fist View Post
    Some dude on the M35 Stagea Tuners FB group has just started offering flashes, so they're just starting to get good.
    Is this what your talking about

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nm35-stag...kAAOSwax5YzinI

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsa76 View Post
    The Pug is the low pressure 1.6 turbo, not the most exciting thing around. Especially with the 4 speed auto, even the 6 speed EGS is better, and it's stupid.
    The only Saabs wagons worth looking at are Aeros.
    Agree re aero, or buy that 2.3 which looks pretty damn good and make your own.

    I want it now haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE CHIEF View Post
    Yep that's him, same photo and everything.

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    ^Now we need a guinea pig to give it a go, lol.

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    As long as its not a besanko type of device I'd give it a go haha

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    Looks like he hasn't addressed the only 2 things I don't like with the stagea. Throttle and gear box response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garvice View Post
    Looks like he hasn't addressed the only 2 things I don't like with the stagea. Throttle and gear box response.
    Box is fixed with a shift kit from MV. Throttle can be made better with an Apexi throttle controller
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    Or slap on an xf throttle body and cable. Perfect.

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    Thanks on the shift kit. I thought the apex throttle controller was just an interceptor type thing, I.e.didn't really change how the delay was in there, just made computer think you were putting more throttle down. I.e. throttle body doesn't follow throttle position like a cable throttle would.

    I'm all for big hammers but I'd rather keep the electronic throttle and just get it linear with the throttle pedal position without delay.

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