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    Giocattolos!

    So I'm in Clowndra right now at an event for these things. There's also three McLarens, some Lotii, Fezzas and a Lamborghini Countach. There's also a 930. There's always a 930. They're like the fat kid at a caravan park.

    I have put a heap of pictures up on FacePlant on the Race Mag site: https://www.facebook.com/racemagazine/

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    I want the Mclaren.
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    Are these based on a GTV?

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    What's a Giocattolo worth these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase Rockwell View Post
    Are these based on a GTV?
    Alfasud sprint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase Rockwell View Post
    Are these based on a GTV?
    No, the Alfasud Sprint, which was mostly an Alfasud but restyled to copy the GTV. A tad smaller than a GTV.
    They actually bought some of the machinery to make the Sprint bodies (although the Sprint was FWD).
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    I thought they bought sprints from the dealer and stripped them and sold off the unwanted parts.

    A guy I met who was a very experienced and knowledgeable race car driver, he described the Giocattolos as "needed a lot more development".
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    They may've bought the Sprints from dealers initially for R&D, but Sprints were long-gone by the time Giocattolo's were being built.
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    No, they started buying shells from Alfa in Italy until they lost support (the story told last night was their contact over there wanted a bribe which they wouldn't do). This person at Alfa (unnamed last night) also prevented Aussie dealers from selling them anything. So they were buying new sprints from NZ and importing them. They'd strip the bumpers off and put three in a container, then strip and sell the rest off over here.

    I had no idea just how interesting the history is! I'll do a full write up soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom
    my neighbours called the cops...... not because of the sound of me working in the garage was too loud, but because i taped a cardboard box to my back, covered my self in vaseline and pretended i was a snail on their lawn

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    Paul Halstead and Barry Lake are still around .... interesting people to talk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightyear View Post
    I want the Mclaren.
    I know someone who can make you a replica (M1b, so not quite that one) and it isn't silly amounts of money.
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    So cool, had never heard of these things until Todd bought one.

    Wonder if they still have the moulds to make the body panels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spammy View Post
    I thought they bought sprints from the dealer and stripped them and sold off the unwanted parts.

    A guy I met who was a very experienced and knowledgeable race car driver, he described the Giocattolos as "needed a lot more development".
    Hmmm I think Barry Lock has a fair idea how to design a chassis but hey I haven't driven one. Have been a passenger, felt very nicely set up/sorted. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisS View Post
    So cool, had never heard of these things until Todd bought one.

    Wonder if they still have the moulds to make the body panels?
    I believe all the bits required to remake these are around, except maybe a decent Sprint shell.

    Transaxle a pest to source too I believe.

    These are largely open wheeler style design in the rear end. True mid engine job.

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    Any pics of the Countach??

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    Giocattolos!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    No, they started buying shells from Alfa in Italy until they lost support (the story told last night was their contact over there wanted a bribe which they wouldn't do). This person at Alfa (unnamed last night) also prevented Aussie dealers from selling them anything. So they were buying new sprints from NZ and importing them. They'd strip the bumpers off and put three in a container, then strip and sell the rest off over here.

    I had no idea just how interesting the history is! I'll do a full write up soon.
    Most interesting. I wonder how they got the Holden V8? Look forward to the write up.

    Any more details on Barry Locks latest project? I saw a pic on fb that resembled a BMW but nothing else
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGTV8 View Post
    Paul Halstead and Barry Lake are still around .... interesting people to talk to.
    Barry Lake passed away in 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by sirhsv View Post
    Most interesting. I wonder how they got the Holden V8? Look forward to the write up.

    Any more details on Barry Locks latest project? I saw a pic on fb that resembled a BMW but nothing else
    They had no issues getting the engines, HEC were actively looking at supplying engines to low volume manfacturers at the time. If you look closely you'll notice the throttle bodies are on either side of the plenum rather than just on the LHS, iirc while this was done for aesthetics they found abit more power with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    See this car? What is it? A few weeks back, this event was advertised and a few people at work were laughing at this car as if 'what kinda of supercar is that?'. And I was thinking, 'I bet it's something actually decent you dumb shitheads'. Then, about a week ago, I actually saw a white one around Beerwah. So, what is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uz-zte View Post
    See this car? What is it? A few weeks back, this event was advertised and a few people at work were laughing at this car as if 'what kinda of supercar is that?'. And I was thinking, 'I bet it's something actually decent you dumb shitheads'. Then, about a week ago, I actually saw a white one around Beerwah. So, what is it?
    See thread title. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giocattolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by irsa76 View Post
    They had no issues getting the engines, HEC were actively looking at supplying engines to low volume manfacturers at the time. If you look closely you'll notice the throttle bodies are on either side of the plenum rather than just on the LHS, iirc while this was done for aesthetics they found abit more power with it.
    Yeah I noticed that about the throttle bodies, I prefer that over the Group A version. Damn OCD lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uz-zte View Post
    See this car? What is it? A few weeks back, this event was advertised and a few people at work were laughing at this car as if 'what kinda of supercar is that?'. And I was thinking, 'I bet it's something actually decent you dumb shitheads'. Then, about a week ago, I actually saw a white one around Beerwah. So, what is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seedyrom
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    He jerked off with the determination of someone within sight of Everestís summit, having lost all his friends and Sherpas, having run out of supplemental oxygen, but preferring death to failure.

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    Actually, that seems like a huge piece of a turd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1uz-zte View Post
    Actually, that seems like a huge piece of a turd?
    I think that to appreciate them, you had to have been there.
    It actually looked decent, had an affordable & maintainable engine, was small & mid-engined. Made here, and actually (kinda) made it to production. And went really well.
    Probably get snotted by any model of WRX, but back then it was pretty unique & really cool.

    Actually, liking one of these is probably as insane as liking a TVR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spammy View Post
    I thought they bought sprints from the dealer and stripped them and sold off the unwanted parts.

    A guy I met who was a very experienced and knowledgeable race car driver, he described the Giocattolos as "needed a lot more development".
    What I have noticed over the years is that magazine reviews usually say it's great. But then you'll see something like a pic of one doing Targa, and the caption will be something like "So-and-so found the Giocattolo's wayward handling to be a challenge on the blahblah stage". So it sounds like the magazines say one thing and the owners say the opposite.
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