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    Heavy duty T56 clutch for L98 - hotness?

    Hey fellas,

    Did a quick search and nothing leaped out but as per thread title.

    Cliffs, it will be going in to a street car, jammed between an L98 and a T56 and fronting a ~500rwhp turbo motor.

    Knee isn't the most amazing as it is so preferably something that won't explode nor hasten arrival of osteoarthritis.. Also, possibly dreaming but closer to $1k the better.

    Cheers fellas.

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    I had a Textralia, but that was almost 10yrs ago. I couldnt fault it and I gave it a good belting at the strip, track and hills.

    Isnt rorge on here the clutch goto man, maybe PM him

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    It's a bit of an overkill, but a Macleod twin plate is very good value. Will hold double that power easy, only a bit heavier pedal than stock, smooth engagement etc.

    edit - just did a quick search, its about USD$750 from summit racing.
    Last edited by Ben.; 21-09-17 at 05:35 PM.

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    Stock stuff from more powerful engines is supposed to be pretty good for pedal feel.

    I imagine something like this would hold 500 - https://www.holmart.com.au/new-genui...pressure-plate
    For something that will definitely hold the power, but its more than 1k - http://www.speedinc.com/shop-by-manu...lutch-kit.html
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    Don't forget that if it's from a VE it has a different slave cylinder arrangement. (Some clutch kits come with this for some reason)

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    Spec and Textralia Z grip in my case - never again. Turned a street car with good manners into an absolute pig.
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    rorge is the resident LS clutch specialist. He'll be along shortly I'm sure.
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    This is what I did yet to confirm whether it`s poo or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ben. View Post
    It's a bit of an overkill, but a Macleod twin plate is very good value. Will hold double that power easy, only a bit heavier pedal than stock, smooth engagement etc.

    edit - just did a quick search, its about USD$750 from summit racing.
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    Really who cares- you go to the pub and come home with no money smashed. The price of beer is kinda irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman Don View Post
    I had a Textralia, but that was almost 10yrs ago. I couldnt fault it and I gave it a good belting at the strip, track and hills.
    Quote Originally Posted by exwrxex View Post
    Spec and Textralia Z grip in my case - never again. Turned a street car with good manners into an absolute pig.
    Yeh, after reading exwrex's experience, a bit hesitant on them...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben. View Post
    It's a bit of an overkill, but a Macleod twin plate is very good value. Will hold double that power easy, only a bit heavier pedal than stock, smooth engagement etc.

    edit - just did a quick search, its about USD$750 from summit racing.
    Quote Originally Posted by mx_paul View Post
    This is what I did yet to confirm whether it`s poo or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by lukevl View Post
    Don't forget that if it's from a VE it has a different slave cylinder arrangement. (Some clutch kits come with this for some reason)
    paul, assuming that's the L98/T56 in your Rx7 (awesome car btw), as per lukevl, any issues re. fitment? As mine is a VE. Trying to make it as drop in as possible to minimise labour + nickel and dime fuckarounds and get it back on the road with minimal squeal.

    Quote Originally Posted by CussCuss View Post
    Stock stuff from more powerful engines is supposed to be pretty good for pedal feel.

    I imagine something like this would hold 500 - https://www.holmart.com.au/new-genui...pressure-plate

    For something that will definitely hold the power, but its more than 1k - http://www.speedinc.com/shop-by-manu...lutch-kit.html
    Yeh, as above, trying to keep it as drop in as possible. Not suuuuuure... how long the Ls7 clutch will go before smokey pile of skid related mess. Did think about it. And assuming I went that way, the site indicates drop straight in +/- flywheel?

    Quote Originally Posted by myliberty View Post
    rorge is the resident LS clutch specialist. He'll be along shortly I'm sure.
    Vunderbar, assuming he doesn't arrive to set shit straight, might fire him a pm.

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    Darwin thanks I have a tr6060 any way It was easy to put in just read destructions ,pay attention, stay of the beers until finish. Hth
    Quote Originally Posted by bigmuz View Post
    Really who cares- you go to the pub and come home with no money smashed. The price of beer is kinda irrelevant.
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    I bet it thong slaps like a boss with that exhaust on it. 253 yo!

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    LS7 clutch being able to hold will probably depend on how sticky your tyres are and what you are going to do with it. Slicks at the drag strip, no, skids on powercruise on chasers, yes.
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    I had an NPC twin plate in my turbo ute and it was the best clutch i have ever had. Would highly recommend.

    Whatever you do, do not use an xtreme / australian clutch services. Worst product ever.

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    I had a Mal Wood clutch in mine. Worked well. Mantic now do a twin plate that isn't too dear and is excellent by all accounts I've heard. Lighter pedal than a single plate too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mx_paul View Post
    Darwin thanks I have a tr6060 any way It was easy to put in just read destructions ,pay attention, stay of the beers until finish. Hth
    Awesome, good to know man.

    Quote Originally Posted by CussCuss View Post
    LS7 clutch being able to hold will probably depend on how sticky your tyres are and what you are going to do with it. Slicks at the drag strip, no, skids on powercruise on chasers, yes.
    Hmmm... Considering better tyres, better diff and being able to hook up somewhat are next on the list, might cough up a bit more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotor7 View Post
    I had an NPC twin plate in my turbo ute and it was the best clutch i have ever had. Would highly recommend.

    Whatever you do, do not use an xtreme / australian clutch services. Worst product ever.
    Cheers and, heh, good to know, it's the one brand my shop told me to steer clear of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    I had a Mal Wood clutch in mine. Worked well. Mantic now do a twin plate that isn't too dear and is excellent by all accounts I've heard. Lighter pedal than a single plate too.
    Awesome. Cheers Jim.

    Dang. Went from no idea to more options than I know what to do with in two days, cheers fellas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben. View Post
    It's a bit of an overkill, but a Macleod twin plate is very good value. Will hold double that power easy, only a bit heavier pedal than stock, smooth engagement etc.

    edit - just did a quick search, its about USD$750 from summit racing.
    Quote Originally Posted by mx_paul View Post
    Darwin thanks I have a tr6060 any way It was easy to put in just read destructions ,pay attention, stay of the beers until finish. Hth
    Link to where you got yours blokes? Derp. found it - https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...illocation=int

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotor7 View Post
    I had an NPC twin plate in my turbo ute and it was the best clutch i have ever had. Would highly recommend.
    Message to them sent, cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    I had a Mal Wood clutch in mine. Worked well. Mantic now do a twin plate that isn't too dear and is excellent by all accounts I've heard. Lighter pedal than a single plate too.
    This one - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MANTIC-90...-/131408012932 ? Bit more than I'd like to spend though looks the goods...

    This looks pretty reasonable though - https://malwoodauto.com.au/product/a...acehdnv8opt3p/ - pedal feel and wear was good in yours Jim?
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    I used a Monster carbon single plate and absolutely abused it daily (clutch kicks at 40kph, dropping 2nd from standstill constantly, etc).. sold car to my mate who abused it even more ruthlessly and exploded the diff gears but the clutch hung on.. Would 100% recommend

    Also have just driven a mates Clubby with a Xtreme organic twin plate, drives very well for a twin plate obviously due to it being organic, cant hear it rattle either if youre worried about shit like that.. the retail price is about 2k though
    Last edited by yohoes; 25-09-17 at 02:48 PM.

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    Marv just bought a clutch for his ute, probably worth getting his feedback on pedal feel and take up.

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    Thanks Yohoes, might see if I can price them up too. Busy at work at the moment so not managing to do it as quick as I'd like.

    Down to a shortlist and just waiting for the guys from Summit to get back now re. the Mcleod and assorted bits. And big thanks to Rorge for his input.

    Probably between the twin plate Mantic and Mcleod at the moment though still considering the npc and will look in to the Monster too.

    Thanks for all the input fellas, happy to hear any more options while the quotes come in.

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    Stuck a tilton twin plate 7.25 init. Pedal feels light without driving it because garage ornament. But shit it was easy to buy. Has an actual torque rating unlike other clutches which have gay 'stage' ratings or just as vague hp ratings. Clutch game seems over flush with bullshit merchants. Tell me why a tilton clutch is shit?

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    I have an ex Nascar Tilton 7.25" triple plate for sale at the moment. $350.
    Rust is lighter than carbon fibre.

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    Pedal feel on the Mal Wood was excellent. Can't say for wear as I didn't get to use it too much but there was no slip.
    Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slides View Post
    Marv just bought a clutch for his ute, probably worth getting his feedback on pedal feel and take up.
    Heh, I was hassling him about a related issue recently, will fire a pm and see what he has to throw in on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mc Juicy Hairy Balls View Post
    Stuck a tilton twin plate 7.25 init. Pedal feels light without driving it because garage ornament. But shit it was easy to buy. Has an actual torque rating unlike other clutches which have gay 'stage' ratings or just as vague hp ratings. Clutch game seems over flush with bullshit merchants. Tell me why a tilton clutch is shit?
    Yeh, bit of information overload here at the moment... sorting around work hours a pain in the nards to boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    I have an ex Nascar Tilton 7.25" triple plate for sale at the moment. $350.
    Ineteresting... Any more details/advice on what I might need for this steal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Pedal feel on the Mal Wood was excellent. Can't say for wear as I didn't get to use it too much but there was no slip.
    Awesome thanks mate. Will have another round of looking in to it tonight after work

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    TBH I don't know in your application. Was being used in my race car with a BMW box. May well need to be re-splined to suit.
    Rust is lighter than carbon fibre.

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    Hmmmm. Thanks for the offer mate but will weigh up when I get the last couple quotes in and perhaps talk to the shop about it.

    Has been a while since I fucked about with manual boxes and learning but won't pretend to know all the details; trying to sort it around work and get all the bits in one hit as between time and budget to get it back on the road soonish.

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    Ok, got to get this today I think.

    Have a brand in mind but last question really- for a daily, and assuming either should hold the power, dual organic or ceramic? Assuming daily, reasonable amount of hill starts etc.

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    i have tried everything there is to try, got sick of removing mantic's after they last 3000km and then shit them self, my go to is a textralia double x grip..
    im a cunt
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    I had a Z Grip, drove a number of other Tex clutches (at the time the whole range from X to a Pete special triple plate) and never had problems. I found the guys who had ‘undriveable’ ones were generally not driving them hard enough, they are made to abuse and take it, a clutch that performs and has OEM soft pedal and manners just doesn’t exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10sec rx7 View Post
    i have tried everything there is to try, got sick of removing mantic's after they last 3000km and then shit them self, my go to is a textralia double x grip..
    Shit hey.. Cross the fingers then! If it flogs out I'll head up to a ceramic in another brand then.

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    Ive got a mal wood organic twin plate in mine(ACE clutch). Has 520rwhp lots of torque and gets driven pretty hard, including many clutch dumps. I have had Zero issues with it and would recommend one to anyone.

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