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    Time for a new tow car, so bought the cheapest Cayenne on carsales

    After building an enclosed car trailer, I realised the old Ve commodore wagon wasn't going to cut it any more.
    So bought a decent Ford Territory Turbo. Towed great, plenty of power and plenty of fuel.

    But soon realised that the towing capacity limit for the ford was 2300kg. That was very borderline for a decent enclosed trailer with a car and spares.

    So offloaded the Territory, and looked for a new car. When you search carsales for 3500kg rated cars you end up with old land cruisers and patrols, turbo diesel utes and crew cabs, some old land rovers, Jeeps, and euro wagons.

    Needing a 4 seater ruled out many cars, and not wanting a land cruiser or patrol type offroad car (as It will never go off road), it left few options.

    The best options ended up looking like the euro trash wagons (Audi Q7, VW Toerag and Porsche Cayenne). All the same base car, all 3500kg.

    Looking around, the Porsche's seemed to be the best value for money of the three with plenty of car for under $20k.

    Went to see some at the auctions, but were all basket cases.
    Organised to see one at 19k, but thought I would go and see the cheapest one on carsales at 14K first.

    Amazingly, it had only 200k on the clock, full service history, and the cleanest car I had seen by far.
    new tyres, new brakes, engine looked clean, no leaks under the car...

    So, after a short test drive, I took ownership of the cheapest Cayenne on carsales, what could possibly go wrong?

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    Since the purchase, I have swapped out the head unit for a kenwood android auto unit, as the inbuilt maps were back from 2004, and didn't seem to know where many of the newer roads were.


    But on Tuesday, the first decent problem. The cayenne has a factory tow pack, and uses a tow controller unit to control the trailer lights.
    and of course it wont recognize the LED lighting on the trailer. It appears that if it doesnt see a load on the output, it thinks there is no trailer and doesn't turn on the outputs for the lights.

    So, I have brake lights, and the electronic brake control working, but no side lights, no tail lights and no indicators, and have to leave for Phillip island tomorrow morning.

    Trying to work out how to fake the signals, so have some trailer plugs and wire here. Going to run some load resistors across the light outputs and see if that works... Fingers crossed.

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    couldve given you the updated maps CD

    sell me the roof racks! or not, i just need some, and this reminded me

    mate and i have been meaning (for about 2 years) to go thrash mine out in the forrest, still havent managed to find the time, but very very happy with it as a car
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    Awesome, so so much car for the money. Being an S means it should have the big brakes and all the other cool options, does it have any of the offroad pack parts?

    Will be following this thread with great interest.
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    updated GPS CD is $150 online
    and keeping the original head unit and adding a Tranzit Blu HF for bluetooth is a better option if you don't want 10 codes when you plug in the diagnostic computer

    just make sure your roof drains are clear

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    Time for a new tow car, so bought the cheapest Cayenne on carsales

    You need ballast resistors to sort the LED problem. In the range of 6-12ohms, I have a few here actually...

    There is actually an adaptor cable available from Ford with the resistors inside, male plug one end, female plug at the other that you put between the trailer and the car... I had the part number written down somewhere but buggered if I know where.

    It was an accessory for the Ranger.

    https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Fo...-/151511629652 this one lol
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    roof racks are off the car and I don't want them...

    The car is a poverty pack version (no air shocks, no bose stereo, no rear camera, no steering wheel buttons)) so the optical fibre network appeared to be doing nothing, so when I removed the stereo (it was fully working and now in a box in the garage) it appeared that nothing has is complaining too much.

    the new stereo was a simple install as is had the ISO wiring plugs, and they make a cayenne replacement console piece, so the new setup looks factory.... the android auto stuff is excellent, so wouldnt go back to the factory thing.


    Roof drains, I haven't looked at them, but I do know that the air con drains block, so I need to check they are clear.

    I saw a turbo cayenne during my research that had overflowed the air conditioner drains, and filled much of the electronics with water. It wouldn't run at all, and he was asking 10k for the whole car, and couldn't get a bite, so I need to be sure that doesn't happen!

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    yeah there's a guy who had a cayenne on the porsche forum that got written off from the roof drains clogging and filling the floors (I think you have to pop the lower sill covers off to get at them)

    i didn't even think it was possible not to get the steering wheel buttons!

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    Coolest tow car ever.

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    2nd in line for roof racks if you don't want them! Would make packing my ski gear easier.

    Do the rear drive shaft now if you plan to tow with it. Do a search on here and you should find my link. If not drop me a pm and I'll dig it up. A place in Vic makes a bolt in replacement. Easy job that you will have to do.
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    I quite like these but am horrified at the potential costs.
    Rust is lighter than carbon fibre.

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    P.S They are a ripper is a mile eater and tow a car really well. Mine towing my old silver 930 on a normal car trailer got exactly the same liters/100 as not towing a trailer with a car on it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lowrrryyy View Post
    Do the rear drive shaft now if you plan to tow with it. Do a search on here and you should find my link. If not drop me a pm and I'll dig it up. A place in Vic makes a bolt in replacement. Easy job that you will have to do.
    210k km on mine, and nothing yet. has towed 2500kg a few times, and regularly kills bugs on the windscreen at 230kmh. not a peep out of it.

    i should prob check the drains though. had a damp footwell once, went away. then the boot/spare well was wet, then went away, then the other day water dripped out of the sunglasses holder on the roof (which doesnt fit the majority of Porsche Design sunglasses fwiw)

    if you can stick the roofracks in the post to syd (or PF courier?), ill take em

    edit, mines more efficient whilst towing, probably because not bending lightwaves around the bonnet

    pps, keeping up with the jones / tow pics

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    "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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    Rear centre bearing on the trail shaft goes from silent to 50 angry midgets with rubber mallets under the centre consol in about 3 kilometres. Ours shat itself at 175klms. Very well known commen problem.
    We have racked up ~150,000klms in ours and it still the best all round car I've ever bought. Even with 250,000klms on the clock it still feels solid as a rock.
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    Cheap tow rig!

    Not a bad old barge the V8 Cayenne, quite capable off road as well.

    There is a later trailer control unit that can be fitted to run the LED tail lights, it lives up behind where the rear CD changer is.

    Biggest piece of advice I can offer is you make sure the plenum drains under the plastic covers behind the firewall are not blocked. Knock the rubber plugs out completely if they are still there.

    The AC drain can get blocked, best to cut the rubber flap off in half to prevent It from getting stuck shut. The sunroof drains can block also.

    Would not be a bad idea to check the front diff oil and change it, its common for the bearings to fail.

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    Great cars. I have a Turbo with about 120K on it. I bought one of these 'shunt' modules to resolve the trailer LED issues;

    http://www.ledtowconnect.com/2012/06/cayenne.html

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    Excellent, thanks for the info. I am amazed just how helpful Pf guys have been, lots of really useful information!

    Due to my need to be towing tomorrow, I will keep on with making my adapter loom and resistors, and see if I can get that working tonight.

    Might end up getting that ledtoconnect thing later.

    thanks.

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    Nice buy!

    Re: the trailer lights, it's probably cheaper to convert the whole thing back to incandescent bulbs
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    I have been looking fix up a repairable write off one of these for the mrs , what's the unloaded round town fuel economy ?

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    Fuel economy... yes, the car's fuel consumption does support some country's economy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Duckworth View Post
    "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluerx7 View Post
    I have been looking fix up a repairable write off one of these for the mrs , what's the unloaded round town fuel economy ?
    4.5 V8.
    ~14.5/100 mixed.
    11lts/100 Freeway.
    20s thrashing it.

    Honestly I would bother fixing one up. They are getting pretty cheap these days.
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    I just want to apologise for some of my shit talking back around page 5.

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    4.5TT, factory boost, average 17.2L/100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Duckworth View Post
    "I think that in a racing engine, the closer it is to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be "

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    PF Peppa Pig crew checking in.

    Had mine for 3 years and it has been great.

    I've been trying not to sell it for the last 6 months, but have recently developed an irresistible urge for something smaller, less comfortable, less useful and less powerful (but with an AMG badge), so it's more seriously for sale.

    $27k for a 2007 4.8l V8 'S', with air suspension, tow bar, 20s and 138k.

    It's in Adelaide, but I could be willing to drive it to Melb if the mood strikes me.

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    Ive just P.Med you. I want to update.
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    I just want to apologise for some of my shit talking back around page 5.

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    do these things have low range?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Duckworth View Post
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    All 03-10 E1 Cayennes have low range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lowrrryyy View Post
    4.5 V8.
    ~14.5/100 mixed.
    11lts/100 Freeway.
    20s thrashing it.

    Honestly I would bother fixing one up. They are getting pretty cheap these days.
    Thanks . I suspected it was pretty thirsty . Towing economy must be through the stratosphere into uzj100r cruiser territory(30/100).

    Last non turbo cayenne I saw with minor rhf qtr damage , 05 under 200k from memory was only 7k so for me def worth fixing as I do all repairs and 2k painting myself so costs me fuck all. They are prob even cheaper now.

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    have you priced the panels and bumper?

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    I drove one for a bit seem to get 25-30 litres 100 it scared me
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