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    Question Best Hatch 2017

    Looking for suggestions from the educated (you've driven, you've owned) on the following-

    • Best new hatch under $20k
    • Best 2nd hand hatch under $12k


    This is for the nopics, her must haves are:
    • Automatic
    • Doesn't want a rocket (no hot hatches)
    • 5 doors
    • 5 seats


    Like to have:
    • Reversing camera
    • Cruise control
    • Bluetooth/Android auto
    • Good resale value after 3-5 years


    I've done my googles, but looking for your trusty input.
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    Mazda2 if you want a small hatch.

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    What ever Toyota suits your budget.

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    With 2nd hand just double check for the Takata recall, they affect a lot of Corolla, Jazz and Mazda3.

    Kia will sell you a Cerato S with reverse cam and apple car play for $20K with nearly a decade of capped servicing and unlim km warranty. Hyundai Toyota Suburu are around 3-5K more

    All things said and done it'll be worth half in approx 2 years.

    https://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/de...14943157/?Cr=5
    Last edited by JGTC; 02-10-17 at 02:48 PM.

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    i30? Probably misses the mark for resale.......but really, what econobox is going to have good resale? Buy car......drive car until it dies......crush into cube.....repeat.
    Last edited by willsy01; 02-10-17 at 03:45 PM.

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    Above $20k - F40
    Below $12k - AU wagon on gas

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    New Suzuki Swift turbo. Drive the usual contenders and see what she can't live with & can't live without.
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    Even with the hateful CVT a Lancer hatch with will satisfy most of those needs.

    Would recommend a higher spec one, or one with platinum pack to get shouty people in the rear bar and a camera. Bluetooth isn't too bad to use and has USB port in the glovebox for music player for the 2011 model my ex nopics has.

    Cruise is one of the better ones I have used for simplicity.

    Decent size, and cruises reasonably well on a long trip, though I would prefer my Falcon ute or E61 wagon for interstate runs, just because they are bigger and slightly lazier on the highway.

    For a shopping trolley it rides OK, won't set record times on the track.

    I also reckon it is one of the better looking shopping trolleys out there.

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    Hard to argue with the KIA 7 year warranty for an appliance imho. Rio is a good small hatch and Cerato a bit of a bargain at the price.

    Given how cheap a new one is why bother with 2nd hand.
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    Rio is shit with auto, unless you cough-up for the 1.6.

    Mazda2's ... may not all have the same problem, but all the new cars we looked-at early in the year & a couple of 1yo cars had the same problem. Non-linearities in the windscreen, meaning the world wobbles around as you look out. My sister's prone to migraines, and couldn't cope with the wobbly-windscreen effect.

    In the end she chose a 1yo Jazz (current model & isn't affected by airbag recall), it wasn't that far behind the Mazda2 but didn't have the non-linear windscreen problem. The 1.4 CVT Accent was 2nd-best but the Jazz was considerably better to drive, and the 1.4 Rio with the 4spd auto was For The Suck compared to the same engine in the Accent with a CVT.

    Going one size up, the only real experience I've had as a 1.8L Cruze loan-car which was a complete POS and I'd recommend nobody ever goes within 15 metres of these let alone drives one let alone buys one. Suspension harsher than a Toyobaru with aftermarket silly-spec-firm springs/shocks except somehow with wobbly handling, NVH galore, and gutless enough to feel damgerous. The aforementioned cars from the next size down were way less nasty.
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    Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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    Best Corolla you can afford.
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    Cerato for the new Auto hatch - 20K on road for auto. Spring the extra $500 for touchscreen infotainment, rear view camera, android auto/carplay

    New Suzuki Swift turbo. Drive the usual contenders and see what she can't live with & can't live without.
    Thats way over 20K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    Best Corolla you can afford.
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    Go and drive a Skoda Fabia.

    Buy the best kitted one you can find for $20k.

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    Recently got a <1yr old Astra for ~20k, including 5yr warranty etc. Has all you listed above plus more. Maybe worth a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Rooster View Post
    Go and drive a Skoda Fabia.

    Buy the best kitted one you can find for $20k.
    Essentially a Polo so this isn't a bad answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    Essentially a Polo so this isn't a bad answer
    How are the DSG gearboxes these days? Still poo or are all the issues sorted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Method View Post
    How are the DSG gearboxes these days? Still poo or are all the issues sorted?
    You don't seem to see so many complaints around the traps; given the 3-5 year resale requirement, I'd feel fairly comfortable buying a new one (used - unsure - definitely not an RS though!).
    Soft roaders represent an excellent compromise between the needs of the hardcore 4x4 user and the convenience of a city hatchback. Its clear to see why they have become so popular in todays society.

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    My almost 10 year old Swift is pretty good.
    Newer ones have all the bluetoothy stuff.
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    Just buy a Corolla. A lightly secondhand CVT Ascent Sport is probably the pick for those criteria - I just arranged one for my brother cheaps through a friend whose company has a shitload of them. $9500 for a 2013 with 94,000km was pretty win, and they haven't changed much since then.

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