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    Touring car masters

    Anyone got a copy of the tech regs to look at? Great racing but it'd be interesting to know what's involved with them.
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    If your planing to drive this on the road and enjoy it, id suggest a second opinion, someone with a history in Australian Rally or Fink River . If your just playing dyno comps. Then ok

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    A lot of NASCAR and previous-spec V8 Supercar tech in them.

    Apparently a couple of teams have the go-ahead to run XD Falcons next year. Hope they've stocked up on door handles.
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    The regs are changing all the time to a more sillouhette/sports sedan in an old body. If I heard the commentators right in the last race the Torry that John Bowe drives has a chev 304 in it and not a Holden 308, but as that was from a commentator I would take that with a grain of salt.

    They were also talking about the Tilley pacer moving from the hemi 6 to an 8 for next year. Will be good to see it up the front, but sad to see the 6 not punching above its weight.

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    i may be able to get you them. my father in law crews for john bowe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PXL265 View Post
    The regs are changing all the time to a more sillouhette/sports sedan in an old body. If I heard the commentators right in the last race the Torry that John Bowe drives has a chev 304 in it and not a Holden 308, but as that was from a commentator I would take that with a grain of salt.
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    i can tell you it runs a 308. a very special one
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    Thought it was strange that they would go to a chev when there are still plenty of Holden motors around.

    Would I be right in thinking that the 308 would have come from a workshop on an airport that deals with tractors????

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    TCM is basically AusGT for old nostalgic rich men. Ridiculous money goes into everything on the cars. The top 5 on the grid would be $350K+ cars at a minimum.

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    They can run 307 Chevs but Bowe's runs a 308.

    These days they're basically a really expensive floor pan sports sedan. I've heard some of the Camaros and Mustangs are those remanufactured China bodies too. very serious bits of kit, full data logging on everything they can, about the only thing old school is the carby and a 4 speed box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RP_Automotive View Post
    TCM is basically AusGT for old nostalgic rich men. Ridiculous money goes into everything on the cars. The top 5 on the grid would be $350K+ cars at a minimum.
    Yep, Dick Savy is a mate & customer & he said, basically current tech in an old body.

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    To be fair if they stuck with the Nc rules and ran them as hard as they do they would just keep breaking parts and everyone would probably end up running a comaro/stang and nothing else.. They are also running as a side show to the v8s so they kinda want to be able to reliably put on a show. Can't afford TCM, go play in Nc were you can get away with a 200k car

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP_Automotive View Post
    TCM is basically AusGT for old nostalgic rich men. Ridiculous money goes into everything on the cars. The top 5 on the grid would be $350K+ cars at a minimum.
    If that means I get to watch 70's muscle cars doing 280kph down Conrod Straight then I can live with that!

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    These is a couple of years old so it's probably out of date, but it does explain a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78CPzeRCpa8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be8HWNNAGF8

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    Some Torana's run a Chev. the 308 gets a weight break. Cam Tilley has been toying with a V8 for a while, it will cop a weight penalty if he goes that way.
    The big difference from a modern car/Sports Sedan is 15inch wheels, meaning smaller brakes and tall semi slicks.
    The worst thing about the category is the gentleman drivers that can't handle the power and handling etc, causing some big prangs.

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    speak to bendigo muscle cars. they built bowes torrie. garys a top guy.
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    Bowe did have a 308 up until this yeah when it was changed to a 304 Chev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Anyone got a copy of the tech regs to look at? Great racing but it'd be interesting to know what's involved with them.
    http://docs.cams.com.au/Manual/Sport...ersion%201.pdf

    They are basically a Sports Sedan in an historic body-shell

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    Yeah. Had a look at the pics of the most recent rebuild of the Blue XY - it's a fucking long way from when it was my car - they kept the watts linkage mount I had though.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    Pretty sure the blue XY was the fastest on conrod all weekend in TCM

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    Nice.
    Didn't get to see *any* motorsport all weekend.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    I thought it was Tilly's green XY that was fastest down the chute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gammaboy View Post
    Yeah. Had a look at the pics of the most recent rebuild of the Blue XY - it's a fucking long way from when it was my car - they kept the watts linkage mount I had though.
    Link to pics?

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    it was on facebook somewhere.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGTV8 View Post
    http://docs.cams.com.au/Manual/Sport...ersion%201.pdf

    They are basically a Sports Sedan in an historic body-shell
    Exactly. They started out as Group N cars, but wanted a) further freedoms and b) additional sponsorship. There was a core group of competitors who followed the series, and the grid was backfilled with local Group N competitors.

    They are bloody quick. Bowe in the Torana set a new lap record of 2:17.5 at Bathurst this year. That time would have qualified him 2nd for the 1987 Bathurst 1000!

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    Wasn't Eddie's XB doing 287km/h odd down Conrod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36 View Post

    They are bloody quick. Bowe in the Torana set a new lap record of 2:17.5 at Bathurst this year. That time would have qualified him 2nd for the 1987 Bathurst 1000!
    That was the race record, Johnson did a 1.16 in qualifying in the Mustang

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    Quote Originally Posted by mph View Post
    That was the race record, Johnson did a 2.16 in qualifying in the Mustang
    Fark!

    Be interesting to see how they go in the XD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNick View Post
    Wasn't Eddie's XB doing 287km/h odd down Conrod?

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    Which is faster than any speed I saw out of a V8SC over the weekend
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    Last time I looked at the TCM rules they were limited to 7,000rpm for the v8s - one of the bits of fallout from when Stubber's Camaro ran 296 or 297km/h in ~2004 when they ran Nc cars at Bathurst before setting up TCM... That was a motor that used the same 60's castings the Camaro originally came with, rather than all the Nascar based stuff that's available.
    The goal was to make the V8SCs the star cars, hence revving higher and running faster...
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    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    Was interesting reading a column from Stubber in Australian Muscle cars about that meeting and how he set the car up for the express goal of cracking 300km/h down Conrod.

    Basically the car was terrible going up the Mountain with the gearing and he near on shat himself with the basic aero coming down the hill.

    To be only 10km/h or so slower in a straight line with a worse entry speed through the Elbow to get onto Conrod it certainly shows how much grunt the TCM spec motors have to push those bricks through the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PXL265 View Post
    Was interesting reading a column from Stubber in Australian Muscle cars about that meeting and how he set the car up for the express goal of cracking 300km/h down Conrod.

    Basically the car was terrible going up the Mountain with the gearing and he near on shat himself with the basic aero coming down the hill.

    To be only 10km/h or so slower in a straight line with a worse entry speed through the Elbow to get onto Conrod it certainly shows how much grunt the TCM spec motors have to push those bricks through the air.
    Yeah, from memory it was pretty much out of brakes by the end of the Chase too. ISTR he slotted more sensible gearing back into it after that run.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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