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    Impulse buy... crf450r

    Well

    Following on from crf top end rebuild thread




    Nopics said it could be a thing so proceeded buying it it sight unseen got a mate to pick it up for me.
    [url=https://flic.kr/p/YDmFvr]
    And then pf cunt hjtonner delivered it to my place. Thanks cunt.
    [url=https://flic.kr/p/YDmFG8]

    Well after much pressure washing and a little ride of my new bike pf cunt parks it near the shed.
    (His bike is my old 11 crf450).

    I wheeled it inside that night finished doing long weekend chores. Gardening with nopics.


    I still don't think I have even sat on it yet.

    I made a start Monday afternoon of the long weekend at pulling it down so I could make a list of shit to order.

    I also gave it a further pressure clean and an abligatary wish list upgrade...

    Well in between building a frigde slide for the paj and installing my hoist all I have managed is to buy shit for it.
    Until last night.
    As a whole it's a good looking bike with little use and most things have been found to be in serviceable condition
    One of the main things I want to do is do a fluid change across the board with it.
    First hurdle
    Front brake master cylinder screws.


    Well having a mill at home has it's benifets




    Whilst it was in the vice I tried with the screw driver on the other screw and it chowdered up also.

    So just drilled the head off both of them.


    Hmmmm manky...



    So drowned in crc for a bit on the threads and trusty vice grips and it can out easily.

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    Will have to sort my Dropbox account sorry will edit first post once updated

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    hmm doubles
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    Having a little bit more of a go
    [url=https://flic.kr/p/ZHGb2Y]

    Shaking the muffler resulting in a rattling sound so wanted to investigate.
    [url=https://flic.kr/p/CGojum]
    Being stainless rivets they are pricks of things i found an old drill that was a bit smaller then the rivet and ground it with a fairly flat angle to help it not bite in so much so made things a bit easier to drill then drilled the head off with a somewhat larger drill bit then used a pin punch to drive the rest of the rivets inside the muffler.\


    With bit of hammer work the sealant will let go...
    Gave it all a sand blast and bit of paint on the alloy can
    Being its stainless and titanium once it gets a bit of heat through it will return to the straw colour fairly quickly



    Oversize rotor bracket did the usual found the cheapest option then modify it to fit...



    Didn't like the colour much easily sorted with


    About a tablespoon in 500ml of water fro all of 3-4mins then rinse and wipe



    And repeat



    The rotor part had a little bit off black paint and wasnt sure what grade of stainless it was so taped it up.
    Also sandblasting was the next option.

    So all finished up and ready for assembly


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    Top effort. Looks awesome

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    Nice pickup. Please fuck off the spokey-doke covers!

    These were (and still are) a good bike. They work really well with a lowering like (zeta racing or pro circuit) as these were the Generation Honda went a bit crazy with the steering angle which made them a tad twitchy. The link really get's the chassis back to a flatter less stinkbug stance.

    Your generation has a bit of a cult following still, arguably (until the 2018 came out) the best Honda 450 ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukevl View Post
    Top effort. Looks awesome
    Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by brasher View Post
    Nice pickup. Please fuck off the spokey-doke covers!

    Yep got that covered

    These were (and still are) a good bike. They work really well with a lowering like (zeta racing or pro circuit) as these were the Generation Honda went a bit crazy with the steering angle which made them a tad twitchy. The link really get's the chassis back to a flatter less stinkbug stance.

    Yeah I think your getting it mixed with the next gen frame 09 -12.
    My last one was a 11 that I did a lot of mods to.

    As far as I know the frame is the same as 07 with the addition of a less offset triple clamp setup and steering damper to try and make them turn better.
    Jeremy McGrath had big influence in there development at that stage and for those of us that were riding in his hay day era bikes and followed him that his bike was based on a ~91 model 250 frame having riden them my first 250 was a 94 and the 11 was very reminiscent of that bike.
    In the way that it could turn and if you let it the thing would headshake


    Your generation has a bit of a cult following still, arguably (until the 2018 came out) the best Honda 450 ever made.
    Yep hence why I bought it as they had sorted the valve issue in this model as well.

    Also a little more suited to riding in the bush with the gearbox ratio spread. Ie lower first gear.
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    Ahh, the 'ol seized master cylinder screws. Gets em every time.
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    Fuck yeah 08 master race checking in.

    Looks a tidy example.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lukevl View Post
    Top effort. Looks awesome
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperHoon View Post
    Fuck yeah 08 master race checking in.

    Looks a tidy example.



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    Yep it's done fuck all its still got the orignal front tire on it and front brake pads which if I wasn't going to braking branded sintered ones (from my stash)I would of left em in there will still use them as a spare set in the spares box /bag when I go racing.
    Back ones not so good...

    Biggest issue I have found so far it has some fairly severe corrosion on the forks that from function point of view should be fine but will be trying to source some outers to replace them.

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    shit, I had a complete brain fart there, you are right. 08's were the dream bike.

    I put together this later gen for a mate, this is the one we lowered and it rode so much better. I liked this generation aswell, the engine was strong but not killdeathy like my Yamaha's.








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    Fuck yeah that looks mint

    Getting the spring rates correct for my weight that made a world of difference as well
    Along with extending the forks to be the longest position as well as running more race sag then the previous models .

    Yeah motor felt soft after the 05 I had before it.
    I put same pipe with mesh delete and tune mainly to fix the low down bog /stalling problem it had.

    Never felt comfortable on that bike liked the way it turned and not a lot else.

    In other news last order made it to my shipito address today so looking forward to it turning up.

    Looking into glass beading to brighten up the alloy and cast parts or ship out for soda blasting anybody have experiance with either.

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    i havent blasted anything myself but seen some done with glass media and it came up fantastic. going to do my xr at some stage.

    once i put a pipe on my 08 it got a whole lot more top end, 13.5 to 1 piston helped too. stock 08s were a bit dull for the supermoto application
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperHoon View Post
    i havent blasted anything myself but seen some done with glass media and it came up fantastic. going to do my xr at some stage.

    once i put a pipe on my 08 it got a whole lot more top end, 13.5 to 1 piston helped too. stock 08s were a bit dull for the supermoto application
    I suppose I'm just going to give it a go as I ordered 3 bags of glass beading from the paint shop today for my blast cabinet lol.

    Haven't riden much in the last kinda 5 years so will leave motor as is until piston is due for replacement.
    Have got a vortex ignition but needs a re program as its is off a 250 for now.
    Other then mesh delete and a few carb mods.

    For the moment I found a replacement end cap for the muffler which is in my shipito package which will do it's thing by making it louder lol.
    Will show pics on assembly.
    Having a good look at the stock muffler it has an expansion chamber as per a lot of the aftermarket headers so yeah makes sense you would lose a little down low going aftermarket.

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    Nice score! If you had of mentioned I coulda sold you mine for PF price.

    Although it's been sitting at old mates workshop since the thread. I haven't had time or money to get it all done

    I miss riding to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no13b_Coupe View Post
    Nice score! If you had of mentioned I coulda sold you mine for PF price.

    Although it's been sitting at old mates workshop since the thread. I haven't had time or money to get it all done

    I miss riding to.
    Lol

    Problem is I'm in remote WA.

    In which freight prices are just getting stupid.

    Would of had to be a fairly good price to match with postage what I paid for this one.
    I think even the pf discount may not of covered it.

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    Well in between shitting my insides out and barfing up any thing i can injest...

    Was able to still be in close enogh distance of the porceline throne when in the shed to not be a messy afair was able to
    further fubar this pile of bolts into even more piles of bolts and find a few more things to order ...for last few days off work.

    Slow progress but making some none the less
    Just used a mag wheel cleaner at this stage and will need a sealer of some description to finish.
    Still waiting glass bead to turn up...
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    Have had a fairly productive weekend of fucking around in the shed didnt seem to get much finished but seemed like i hardly stopped.

    Some of my gear from the US turned up on Friday so was able to get the muffler finished up.



    At this stage i was not happy with the paint so promptly bead blasted it then got the alushine out and gave it a bit of a quick polish and assembled it.


    (glass fiber packing is in didnt bother with photo)
    As said earlier was turning this into even more piles of bolts
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    After a couple of hours in the blast cabinate


    After playing mad scientist I then was able to turn them into this pile of bolts.
    .







    Frame and motor is on the mat in front of my lounge atm getting the alushine treatment during tv watching with nopics.




    This is rear caliper piston brake pads were u.s. and has distinctive rust line at that position.



    So have started making it out of this

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    Carrying on from last pic

    Put it into my lathe and went to work.



    To hold the piece i needed a collet and collet chuck I have some thing close that would of worked but still not ideal so turned a bushing and slit it down the side with the bandsaw.


    After its finished





    Cause race bike



    A very fast way to clean stainless bits and alloy is to bead blast them if you have the gear to do so.


    Have bought rebuild kits for both ends to freshen up the brakes.
    And electroplated the fasteners and sliders.
    Very carefully blasted the heat shields and came up well also.




    Whilst the motor is on the bench it is some what easier to check the valves imo.
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    All bar one was on the larger side of the specs in the book.
    Intake is 0.16 -/+ 0.03mm Exhaust 0.28 -/+ 0.03.

    Scribble sheet and now all within spec
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    Coming along sweet!

    Meanwhile still waiting to get mine back. I need to learn how to do all this shit so I can save myself the pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no13b_Coupe View Post
    Coming along sweet!

    Meanwhile still waiting to get mine back. I need to learn how to do all this shit so I can save myself the pain.
    Cheers thanks.

    The book on these really is very detailed and straightforward to follow if you have one.
    Imo they are also very simple after pissing around with cars much and every thing is not exactly heavy
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    Keeping it fresh...


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    Well

    After last pic you can probably guess that the covers are off and some inspecting was done

    Clutch seems ok for now the groves have started and did not feel as though filing them down smooth would of been much of a benefit as of yet so put some new hd clutch springs in and called it good the plates were all within spec also.


    Although there looks to be a fair amount of paint there is a quite a few corrosion pits so gave it all a bead blast and a paint.
    Kind of matched the colour off the rocker cover and shot a clear coat over it so not correct but should stop the corrosion just fine.




    Getting stuck in and replaced pretty much every bearing on the frame although most looked fine steering head bearing were pretty much the only ones that were beyond serviceable.
    Had to cut slot in bench so i could press the steering head bearings in.



    Probable that was the original



    Shock was leaking so wanted to make sure it was fixed properly or so i told the nopics.
    Firm believer of setting up suspension on a bike properley makes them so much easier to hang onto.


    But all was not to be as the leak was caused by a problem with the shaft cunt...

    Have ordered just a replacement shaft from
    https://www.fullforceracing.com.au/

    ~$150

    Genuine was around ~$400 for the replacement part screw that
    It included the whole lower section and not in separate pieces.

    Mind the oily hand marks on it, it is coming together and have put oil in gearbag and motor and fresh filter.



    Away for work for most of the week so itching to get home to keep on trucking with this.
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    wow mx bike resto level boss, even a zinc plating setup?!

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    Welcome on the delivery cunt. Was clean when i left home! 250km of wet cascades roads will do that i guess!

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    Yeah zinc plate plus a blue chromate so that it makes the zinc layer a bit harder and gives a slight blue tinge.

    Most shit is yellow for the cad plate look.

    Was thinking black chromate would be cool but the factory standard look is a bit more universal and not so noticeable when touched up with the spanner.

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    Looks fucking mad man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hjtonner View Post
    Welcome on the delivery cunt. Was clean when i left home! 250km of wet cascades roads will do that i guess!
    Meh was destined to come apart anyway.
    When you coming down so i can roost you ya cunt

    Quote Originally Posted by no13b_Coupe View Post
    Looks fucking mad man.
    Thanks it is taking up a fair bit of time but very much enjoying it though and somewhat cheaper then the other projects on the go.
    So kind of a side project(procrastination excuse) then working on 40 plus year old shitboxes ... or trying to get motivational experience.

    Kind of is working to a degree though since getting my hoist having one of the ol girls up in the air i will walk past and kind of do 20mins on it in between electroplating batches.
    Good being bike is exclusively metric and my old stuff is imperial so kind of leave the tools needed on the ramps with it so can just kind of carry on where i left off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcs View Post
    Meh was destined to come apart anyway.
    When you coming down so i can roost you ya cunt



    Thanks it is taking up a fair bit of time but very much enjoying it though and somewhat cheaper then the other projects on the go.
    So kind of a side project(procrastination excuse) then working on 40 plus year old shitboxes ... or trying to get motivational experience.

    Kind of is working to a degree though since getting my hoist having one of the ol girls up in the air i will walk past and kind of do 20mins on it in between electroplating batches.
    Good being bike is exclusively metric and my old stuff is imperial so kind of leave the tools needed on the ramps with it so can just kind of carry on where i left off.
    When you check my valves getting a slight rattle.

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    I'm claiming I'm a useless cunt that doesn't like getting dirty (typical elechicken) and will point and tell you what to do.

    Whilst I drink your beer
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