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    I know in the early 2000s, a guy in Canberra had full GTIR engine and driveline in a 1200 coupe here in Canberra.

    That doesn't really have anything to do with this though.

    Please continue with what you are doing. I have no idea how it will all fit in there at all though.
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    Keen to see how this pans out.
    A tube frame widebody 1200 ute with R35 drive train would be a handful with 5-600hp let alone 1000hp. Definitely keeping tabs on this.
    Hope there's many pics of chassis building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYA View Post
    So all I wanted it 1000hp and it based loosely on circuit not drag, this way I can have something never done before, be quick at the drags, 1000m, burnouts, "circuit" etc like you could do any event without being totally shit at all of them except 1.
    really? seems like a pretty simple plan, I'm sure many have at least tried this before, nothing springs to mind that could actually do it all though.

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    Are you going to transition the whole electronic package across seeing it seems to be a large chunk of the R35's capability above and beyond other cars of the hp/weight regime?

    There are plenty of guys on the pro-touring scene in the US who are trying to build stuff that can do it all, hell, there's the "Optima Street Car Challenge" which from memory includes drag, go to woah, autocross and circuit. Anyway - will be cool to see something like this be built.
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    why not get one of those 4x4 falcon utes¡¿
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    To be honest apart from the difficulty of designing a tube car, this is really no more difficult than any super sedan thing.

    The transaxle makes it pretty simple, only hard issues are the electrics but that again is not too bad. I was assuming I would take it all from the GTR and just copy what the race 35s are doing at the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobster View Post
    I know in the early 2000s, a guy in Canberra had full GTIR engine and driveline in a 1200 coupe here in Canberra.

    That doesn't really have anything to do with this though.

    Please continue with what you are doing. I have no idea how it will all fit in there at all though.
    The concrete guy that was friends with Rdyno's uncles brother inlaw daughters husband ?

    and yeah Playa, you are a nutter !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TT View Post
    I don't see how this can happen.
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    Looks like it should be some kind of weapon!

    A lot of sensible thinking going on here, look forward to seeing it going up Collingrove....
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    Oh I'm thinking Playa has the IT smarts I'm expecting this thing will be built virtually long before a piece of steel is cut....
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    Is this done yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFJET View Post
    less talk more driving cad software!
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    There will be few 100 hours of drafting and scanning before I turn any spanners. My friend designed and built a plasma tube notcher and he has a macro written that outputs the code straight from Solidworks.

    So my plan is to commit to wheels, set up suspension geometry, draw chassis space frame with engine and transaxle in it then start to fit the other junk into it.

    Someone asked about hard cover I'm going to leave tray open and have the radiator and oil coolers in the back, I'm just not sure how to duct that at the moment.

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    Is there a packaging reason for reworking the suspension geometry? I'd be inclined to leave it as per OEM given how well those things work.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gammaboy View Post
    Is there a packaging reason for reworking the suspension geometry? I'd be inclined to leave it as per OEM given how well those things work.
    The 1200 is 1500mm wide and the GTR is about 1900, I'll model it because originally I really wanted to keep standard subframes but then it all got out of hand and I kept thinking bigger and bigger.

    Another idea I thought was get it running with standard frames and then later on design custom frames if I didn't like it. I need to check on the strut layout as that could be a problem if it is too far out for 1200 bodywork.

    To be honest I just wanted to do it custom because sometimes 10 hours on a bit of design up front could save a heap of packaging issues later. Not to mention I can shrink up the width 200mm so it is only 100mm out the guards.

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    I'd widebody the ute, but the way some of the mustang guys do it - ie maintain the turret width (no custom glass), but basically add a flat on the belt line to add width.
    Like so:



    Preston's Mustang body is now 4" wider so the flares are less rediculous (It's still 6" wider than stock or something.) I've seen one done with otherwise stock arches - it's hard to pick initially what's going on.
    "Where can we get hold of a Vincent Black Shadow?" "Whats that?" "A fantastic bike," I said. "The new model is something like two thousand cubic inches, developing two hundred brake-horsepower at four thousand revolutions per minute on a magnesium frame with two styrofoam seats and a total curb weight of exactly two hundred pounds."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAYA View Post
    The 1200 is 1500mm wide and the GTR is about 1900
    So you just need 200mm wide flares and some rivets then. Easy!

    I'll put this in the 'build threads I'll follow and largely not understand but love anyway' box.

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    LOL just for perspective, Datsun 1200 ute 1500 wide, R35 GTR about 1900, my 1988 F1 rear end 1260mm......

    As I've discovered it is all about packaging. Fitting all of that R35 into a 1200 shaped package is going to be a challenge. Being capable of doing it all virtually is going to be a real luxury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gammaboy View Post
    I'd widebody the ute, but the way some of the mustang guys do it - ie maintain the turret width (no custom glass), but basically add a flat on the belt line to add width.
    Like so:



    Preston's Mustang body is now 4" wider so the flares are less rediculous (It's still 6" wider than stock or something.) I've seen one done with otherwise stock arches - it's hard to pick initially what's going on.
    Similar thing in mine for my race coupe (Datsun 1000)
    Be about as wide as an R31 by the time I've finished (from 1440 - 1700 wide)
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    That is an insanely awesome plan and something tells me your not a bench racer. Prove me right!

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