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    Part out

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    Fuel light is on, I might do something drastic.

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    Oh look, it's Locky. Hello.

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    In short, some cunt at test and tune had a 250cc honda turning to 11ty and it sounded porn. Do that.

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    Worked up the motivation to put fuel in the thing. Picked up a mate and hit Macquarie Pass.





    Somehow managed to get a photo that isn't overwhelmed with dents, cracked bog or patches of missing clearcoat. Car still isn't broken, but misfire is getting worse. Piece of shit (probably) fake Yaris coilpacks will get the flick as soon as I can be bothered to find allen keys and a spanner. Car was tuned on 21 psi with failing coilpacks, new "Yaris" packs won't go past 15 psi. Go figure.

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    This thread is making me want to get back into a s13
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    I really, really, really want to re-shell into a cleaner / straighter / less smelly Silvia shell, but it honestly feels like the time to do that was 1-2 years ago. Shells worth investing in suddenly got much harder to find.

    The idea of getting subtle widebody panels to cover the rear guards has been getting more and more persistent, but OEM-only exterior has always been a rule with this car. Having a good surface to put real paint on is appealing though

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    Continuing on that theme, when I was in build hell, I met another young fellow stuck in build hell. He crashed his Autech S15 and was reshelling into a 180 shell, complete with S15 front end and interior. Eventually he saw the light and bought a two tone S13 that had a normal NA engine + 6 speed conversion. It was sort of comical, the car was for sale for 4k and people were commenting and saying what a ripoff it was. I told Johnno it was reasonable value for money, so he just went and bought it (after checking it out), then bragged on the 100+ comment thread at what a good car it was for the money haha

    He swapped in his Autech engine, (at my suggestion) bought OEM aero from Japan and Nismo suspension, then found some Nismo wheels for ridiculously cheap (one needed repairs, but still was way less than market price), and gave the car a closed door spray at another friends.





    It was akin to a non-drift version of Dan's black S13, but with aircon. I would have dailied this 100%, I wasn't in a position to buy it when he eventually bought a series of SW20's instead. Oh well, the car will live on

    Oh wait, the new owner ran into a spot of bother





    Another one bites the dust.

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    That one was the 'mega-runs-massive-orangepeel-in-a-dirt-door-floor-shed' spec closed door respray wasn't it?

    Also are the buddy clubs off that wreck for sale yet?
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    That was a Rob spray yes, but I think it wasn't too bad. Robs own car had the epic runs, and Dans car had the supreme orange peel.

    The crash was many months ago, buddyclubs were 15x8+12, so not very useful to you. Not sure where they ended up tbh

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    epic thread, love it. Get it painted man! that shell will tidy up mint. My wagon (al's old one) was covered in so many dents but came up mint with some panel work. totally worth it.

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    I think I'm put off having to re-do things I shouldn't have done to get me by in the first place. This car was meant to be a budget thrasher from the start, the big mistake was bolting on expensive bits to it haha. A friend painted the roof for me and fixed some rust around the windshield, which has since come back worse, but he cracked the windshield AND we used a whole tube of silastic to stick it back in. Not something I want to re-do

    S13/180 rear guards are paper thin and almost always buckle when you do more than the mildest guard roll. Mine have been flattened, rolled and pulled. Oldmate used a jack handle to roll them, meaning that the lip is squashed differently on each side, so that each guard has different wheel clearance and different external appearance. Does my head in. It's like having 25mm widebody on one side, 20mm subtle flare on the other. With massive dents above the guard, and both side of the boot have cracked bog from previous owners street drift career. bla bla bla, the car has a lot of character and a lot of sentimentality, but I think uncovering more damage, rust, and trying to fix it all would kill me.

    tldr I'm a tightass and don't spend money on things I can't re-sell. or haven't figured out how to buy a nice car, scrape the paint off and glue it to my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty! View Post
    Get it painted man! that shell will tidy up mint.
    You really need to see the car before coming to that conclusion. Trick photography etc
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    You can still buy replacement rear quarter panels from Nissan. Or run over fenders, which look nice enough if installed well.

    Also forget about Yaris coilpacks. Get yourself a set of 370Z coilpacks, same as R35 GTR but without the GTR tax.

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    Whole exterior is OEM now, which feels neater and sensibler. Over fenders really shit me, either they are subtle but dont cover the whole guard, so the transition will be potentially nasty. Or they cover the entire guard, but are GTR-style or very not subtle. ugh.

    Replacement quarter would be better, but the shell has other issues haha. When I inspected the car, the doors didn't close properly - you had to slam it, it would make a metallic squeal, and the door would sit up slightly. Why? Because the genuine URAS sideskirts were wood screwed on. As in, it was screwed into the door frame, where the door is supposed to close. Owner: "thats how the door closes". Now there are 6 rusty holes on each door frame. Thanks bro

    I've been thinking about the later Nissan coilpacks, but pretty much am waiting for something to sell at this point. It's been a few years since I've thrown *new* money at this car, it has usually been funded by itself or other cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopistons View Post
    Whole exterior is OEM now, which feels neater and sensibler. Over fenders really shit me, either they are subtle but dont cover the whole guard, so the transition will be potentially nasty. Or they cover the entire guard, but are GTR-style or very not subtle. ugh.

    Replacement quarter would be better, but the shell has other issues haha. When I inspected the car, the doors didn't close properly - you had to slam it, it would make a metallic squeal, and the door would sit up slightly. Why? Because the genuine URAS sideskirts were wood screwed on. As in, it was screwed into the door frame, where the door is supposed to close. Owner: "thats how the door closes". Now there are 6 rusty holes on each door frame. Thanks bro

    I've been thinking about the later Nissan coilpacks, but pretty much am waiting for something to sell at this point. It's been a few years since I've thrown *new* money at this car, it has usually been funded by itself or other cars.
    I picked up my set of 370Z coilpacks for ~$100 from the States. Mate nicked them and is running them in a 400hp SR20, they fit really well too.

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    Was having a gentle car hang at a mates Hole in the Wall, who sorts out our tire supply. A mate was going back to GTR wheels on his stagea, even though they look crap and he should sell them to me.



    Suddenly a wild Tyrone appears in his loud Audi V8 thing



    The red leather interior is really good for carting around hacked 14" tyres from his AE86



    And the boot was full of parts from his old Onevia he was trying to sell off.

    His choice of workhorse made me chortle.

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    Random post

    Back in 2015, somehow Initial Drift Australia? managed to organise a trial drift day at Marulan. This day was supposed to be a proof of concept that drifters could rent, use, and then leave, a race track without being dickheads. We turned up, did the day, and left seemingly without any issue, aside from the track staff stopping the cars every 5 minutes to sweep dirt off the track (seriously annoying)

    Memory was triggered by overfender talk. Marulan was cold this time of year, and Lockys excellent E85 tune had rubbish cold start (and/or E85 is just harder to deal with on close-to-zero days). So we had to push Lockys widebody thing that was almost impossible to push without hearing fiberglass cracking. That specific memory is what stops me from ordering widebody of some sort after I talk myself through the other 50 issues. If nothing else, I will have to rely on pushing my car at some point again.

    So the Marulan drift/test day was a weird day, but good nonetheless. Locky tried some highly recommended AUPLUS tires (I think the shop just had them left over) which were absolutely garbage - in second it would just wheelspin until limiter, but if he clicked third it would wheelspin harder and the car would just slow down.

    Joey made the mistake of doing "one more run" - https://www.facebook.com/danskits1/v...3123857137762/
    Blown 2nd gear for those without bookface. We pushed the car onto Tittys trailer, and drove Tittys 180 home with rubbish exhaust, noisy wheel bearing, and other annoying little things that I spent years fixing in my own shitbox. Titty towed Joeys car home, probably with aircon and cruise control in the ute. MVP Titty.

    Anyway, the day ticked all the boxes, only one? person got told off for loud exhaust (Marulan has noise restrictions for those outside of NSW), noone trashed the track, or the 'pit', or gave staff attitude. All the drivers enjoyed the day, everyone was happy. There was no more discussion about future drift days at Marulan since this day. jackiechanwtf.jpg.

    Bonus pic of some poo brown 180SX with pink wheels, being staunched by a honda (wtf)



    The driver was a total nerd, but had awesome wheel nuts.

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    Awesome thread and fuck there has been some nice looking cars pop up in here, makes me almost miss my S15. Far cry from the usual look for S chassis cars you see down here too, most are drifted junkers or ex-Autosalon left overs.

    Bodywork on your car seems to be a recurring question so Ill chip in my two cents; forget doing a reshell. By the time you find a good shell, pay good money for it, fix the inevitable issues with that shell, pull everything to bits, hate your life for no longer having a running car etc you would have fixed your one faster and cheaper. Id honestly go as far as saying I reckon itd be easier to find a good Datsun 1600 or Gemini shell then a decent S13 one these days! Unless your car has been stacked hard and is bent, the panel damage and or rust is a relatively easy fix.

    Also, is there any reason why Nissan/Toyota owners seem to have an aversion to using GM/LS coils? They all seem to insist on using "random coil X" because its so much more superior to LS coils and continue to put up with misfires, shit performance and coils failing.

    Keep up the good work.

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    I miss my poo brown 180sx with pink wheels. Even though i still have whats left of it (wheel nuts live on in the Silvia, and now I have 4 spares). Was well setup by then and that Marulan day was so fun.

    Locky has incar video somewhere from that day, some of it was following me. Only footage I know of that car working.

    -1 for me with fibreglass. Horrible itchy cracky shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F3ARED View Post
    Awesome thread and fuck there has been some nice looking cars pop up in here, makes me almost miss my S15. Far cry from the usual look for S chassis cars you see down here too, most are drifted junkers or ex-Autosalon left overs.

    Bodywork on your car seems to be a recurring question so Ill chip in my two cents; forget doing a reshell. By the time you find a good shell, pay good money for it, fix the inevitable issues with that shell, pull everything to bits, hate your life for no longer having a running car etc you would have fixed your one faster and cheaper. Id honestly go as far as saying I reckon itd be easier to find a good Datsun 1600 or Gemini shell then a decent S13 one these days! Unless your car has been stacked hard and is bent, the panel damage and or rust is a relatively easy fix.

    Also, is there any reason why Nissan/Toyota owners seem to have an aversion to using GM/LS coils? They all seem to insist on using "random coil X" because its so much more superior to LS coils and continue to put up with misfires, shit performance and coils failing.

    Keep up the good work.

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    With the reshell if he found a registered shell / ca auto na for cheap on a Friday arvo. If he assembled some scumbag friends could have it on the road in the by Monday, just swapping subframes ect and have it done quite easily. Just space is an issue. Then cheap freshen up spray and it may not be mint never been touched, but a lot better than current.
    Just if wants to do a lot of things different/ better lack of time/space would be an issue.



    The GM coil packs I'm pretty sure can't run stock ecu, big and chunky and never look like a good place to put them. Guess a lot of people are looking for something dorp in ish that just replaces the 30yo ones

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    Splitfires aren't a thing anymore? They've always worked for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Locky) View Post
    With the reshell if he found a registered shell / ca auto na for cheap on a Friday arvo. If he assembled some scumbag friends could have it on the road in the by Monday, just swapping subframes ect and have it done quite easily. Just space is an issue. Then cheap freshen up spray and it may not be mint never been touched, but a lot better than current.
    Just if wants to do a lot of things different/ better lack of time/space would be an issue.



    The GM coil packs I'm pretty sure can't run stock ecu, big and chunky and never look like a good place to put them. Guess a lot of people are looking for something dorp in ish that just replaces the 30yo ones
    A registered/half decent shell is what, 3-4k? Im sure there are cheaper ones but say for something half decent that hasnt been raped by the drift squad/flat brim wearers association. Then you still need to go through the hassle of swapping everything over and the associated risks with it like time blow outs, having two cars in pieces and still having to do paint and prep on top of that [another 2k lets say for a close door in solid]. All in no change from 5 to 6 grand. Im pretty confident that 6k would amply cover a large portion, if not ALL, body work required to get the 180 looking good and painted. Personally, having been there done that multiple times, I know what I'd be doing.

    Better the devil you know then the one you dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F3ARED View Post
    Better the devil you know then the one you dont.
    I'm with this guy. The quarters don't look too bad to just fix rather than repalce. A good beater would knock it over pretty quickly.
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    I never thought I'd have to argue how shit my car was heh

    Okay, a retort in three parts:

    1.

    Theres a combination of a lot of damage I dont want to fix, plus related issues - the mega buckled guards are actually quite structural on S13's. Going in and out of driveways now, the guards buckle and pop. If they were simply bogged up, it would just pop out again. S13's have either untouched guards, very lightly flared that you gain 5mm clearance, or are flared and buckled. The mystery fourth option is to put a football inside the cavity and inflate it, to hold the buckle out, but it really is a case of thin metal that is supposed to be in a specific shape.



    either side of the rad support was hacked out to fit the intercooler. This means a) there will be gaping holes if I removed the intercooler, and b) cannot run popup headlights anymore, as the mounting position for the motors have been removed

    Also you can see that the driver side chassis rail is suspiciously painted gloss black here - I think oldmate has run into something, as every spot weld holding the rad support/chassis rail together had broken apart with several large cracks. I hammered it back together and welded it up, and there's zero fitment issues with any parts, so I dont think anything has wandered away.



    You can see the light on this one, the buckle above the wheel arch. There is also a sizable dent (caved in section?) between the wheel arch and the door. On both sides, at the rear of the rear quarters, is a star shaped crack where bog has started coming apart.

    The passenger side is really much more presentable. Either way, if I went through the effort to clean it up (not going to happen) or paid someone to do it (no fucking way), I would die inside when I go into my shitty driveway and bog pops off or the guard re-buckles or whatever.

    Finally, humblebrag



    This was my view since 2011, as in, since I bought this car, it's been in the sea breeze, getting hammered by salt, and occasionally washed. It did get driven regularly, and when I went back to uni/became stay-at-home-dad/aka stopped driving the car, I made a point of cleaning the garage enough that the car would actually fit. Still, I am nervous about a build up of rust where I can't see it.

    2.

    I don't know what I actually want.

    For a decade, i've been all about Sil80. Swooping fast back shape, with business-like front end. Lately, all I can see is two separate cars. I genuinely think the 180 front end suits the fastback shape better.

    I've always wanted a sunroof 180. Seeing them sideways in a cloud of smoke with the roof popped - perfect

    I've always wanted a sensible Silvia. They're lighter, stiffer, have a sealed cabin and therefore quieter. Every now and then I use the hatch to go to bunnings, or get car loads of treasure from Big Tony's stash, but for the other 99% of the time, I dont even use the hatch. Go figure

    Something sensible and simplistic, like this car, has always haunted me



    I was in a world of happiness when I got my car aligned on 16's, and had much less camber. Car had so much more grip, and a lot nicer to drive. But with my mangled guards, tiny wheels just looked fucking stupid. If I had a Silvia with good guards, I could run little wheels happily.

    Now, I've bought a lot of Silvias, and every single one has had a different tare weight. The difference is enough to put them in different rego categories (NSW), so rego could see $50 difference yearly. Not so much an issue if I went for historic/modified rego.

    3.

    I want aircon, see pics in #1

    I put an intercooler where the condensor should be

    I moved the powersteering pump where the AC pump should be

    I dont want to run a front mount, because I have a completely uncut aero bar

    Basically I have picked too many criteria and ultimately cannot build an impossible car. If I sold off most of the sil80, I think I could have my cake and eat it if I built a non-turbo Silvia. No cut aero bar, and aircon/tinted windows.

    Actual 3.

    Starting on another shell would mean a) getting around the above issues, b) being able to fix issues without needing the car to be running to get to work, c) can do all the shitty little things I did "temporarily", PROPERLY. Add sound deadening, run wiring neatly, mount things gooder, delete a few brackets and hoses that didn't get used or have been taken out (no Defi water temp gauge/sensor, but still have wiring through engine bay, etc.).

    tldr

    I'm unemployed and have too much time to think about something I'm not going to change


    I do like having a shell that ISN'T precious, and can therefore drive it into the ground, but at the same time, I'll cry if I crashed my front bar ($1k), mirrors (couple hundred), tail lights and rear pods ($1k), or wheels ($2k+). So basically, I have a sacrificial car that is covered in unobtainable bits. dickhead.

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    re: GM coils

    They look fuck ugly

    I wanted something that fits under the standard coil pack cover and doesn't take up any extra space. The yaris coilpacks are SUPPOSED TO FUCKIGN WORK, and I even bought from a trusted seller. Cunt. I have a box of OEM coils that I'll stick back in when I can be bothered, and try to identify good sets. Yohoes mentioned R35 coilpacks in his thread, with the payoff being that it improved idle. and driveability. and off boost character. and coming onto boost. etc. Thats exactly what everyone has said about yaris coilpacks. My fake ones are good in every condition except for actually being on boost.

    I was running 20+psi on "fucked" coilpacks that Yavuz wasnt happy with. It's a joke that the fake yaris ones can't handle 15psi. If the box of stockers doesnt sort it out, I'll look into wasting more money on the newer Nissan ones.

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    Your going to eventually run out of cool s-chassis stories to tell soon which would disappoint a lot of people so really the only option is to commit and re-shell into an s13.

    Your obviously s-chassis for lyf and like you said, good shells are getting pricier/hard to find, so what seems like an expensive excercise now will lead to a couple of decades of happiness and probably a decent investment on the long term *





    *this is what i convince myself/nopics everytime I need to our more money into my EJ 'I swear
    it'll be the next HDT Brock we'll retire off it by 50'

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    lol, in all that rambling that was something I did forget. Theres a shit load of dumb stories in the vault, but without juicy pics, it feels a bit less authentic.

    The big main point of my tired ramble last night was that this doesn't feel like a forever car. I like the look of it, I love how it drives, and its actually pretty comfortable inside, now that most things are sorted, but it doesn't have the forever car feeling. That's the cause of my perpetual uncertainty. It's pretty quiet, and doesn't draw attention, but I feel a Forever Carô has to have a tasty sound. I'd never swap in an RB, but RB's sound a lot tastier. Or a nonturbo setup with big cams. Normal NA SR's sound like 4 cylinder dungers, that racemotor with the big Tomei Procams had that really throaty sound that 4AGE are good for. Slower than my engine, but sounds gooder.

    I do fantasize (talk lockys ears off) about a clean slate reshell, if I sold up all of my turbo shit I might have enough to do a budget RWD SR20VE setup. Going NA would mean I dont have to worry about intercooler placement or sacrifice aircon or try to fit everything in the engine bay.

    The other side of the coin, I really like the car. It doesn't feel forevery, but if i get a spare hour, I can jump in it and hit a mountain and it'll always put a smile on my face. Or get groceries in it.



    I guess I'll keep dent king for a while.

    Although theres a Volvo 242 wagon around the corner with a "for sale" on it

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    +1 for n/a and a/c. Feels way more engaging to drive rather than a turbo that wants to suddenly turn your rear tyres to smoke and put your license in a holding pattern for a few months.
    A bit of aural pleasure ( rather than oral pleasure that I assume comes from a tilty sunroof smoke machine ).

    Once I refine ours a bit more it will surely be a forever car. My brother loves it how it is, messages me all the time to tell me. And always has a big grin when he drops it off to me. He's over 40 and I'm on my way there. Old man drives indeed.

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    cool thread, so much so that after checking out s13 this week I decided I needed a set of Advan AVS 6's, bloke is dropping a gold set off this morning.

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