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    The Daily tow rig, V WH Grand Cherokee

    So after much researching and butt scratching i narrowed down my next daily as a WH Grand Cherokee due to the 3500 kg tow rating and the BFYB.
    I want to do some basic offroading and with the QDII it has that covered after a lift / wheels are added.
    I was first interested in the 5.7 Hemi because sounds but the economy whilst towing and fuel over $1.50 a liter ended that idea.
    The 3 liter TD V6 then became the choice and after many hours googling it seems they have a few issues but could be worked around with a few mods (catch can, EGR delete, swirl motor delete)
    so i went looking. Around 10k would get me into a decent one with moderate ks.
    After much looking i stumbled onto one at the Auctions at Bathurst which fit the bill and had 4 hrs left on the Auction.
    Not being able to drive it worried me but i decided to have a crack and stop bidding before it got near the price of a private sale.
    Fast forward 4 hrs and i was the highest bedder at $3300 but it didnt reach reserve....Auction house spoke to the wholesaler and he said fuck it let him have it as he sold 10 cars that day and made good on the rest so took a bit of a hit.

    Went out in the lorry a few days later and picked it up. Got it home and it has a bit of an oil leak around the transmission pan and a totally flogged out front upper diff bush (very common i found out)

    First thing i did was do the Swirl motor delete which involves disconnecting it and putting a resistor in its place (jeep charges over 3k to fix if it fucks out but a 48c resistor overrides it)

    Next will be drop the front diff and replace the bush and fix oil leak then see how it goes.

    Future plans are a lift and wheels and maybe a Zorst and tune just depends how it goes stock. They have 160KW and 510 nm so should do for awhile.
    Best thing is my young bloke loves it and spent all day working on it and learning shit.
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    That's a lot of tow car for the money.
    Didn't know they had over 500Nm. Please carry on.
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    yeah 510nm with decent towing capacity certianly has my attention. Very interested to see if they can be trusted for long trips out west
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    Looks like a bargain. What year is it?

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    2007 model. Its from the time Mercedes Benz owned them so the motor is the Mercedes OM642 and Mercedes 5 speed auto that also powers the Chrysler 300C Turbo Diesels.
    All Alloy quad cam V6 Turbo Diesel with the turbo in the valley above the motor. There are some known issues but if you do what i said deleting the Swirl motor and a catch can plus an EGR delete there meant to be pretty stout.
    In the states they ran DPF but we didnt have it in Oz so thats a bonus. The same motors have been used in all sorts of different Mercs for years as well obviously.
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    You have the right idea, they will require more maintenance than the Toyota tractors but are about 11ty million times better.

    You will also probably have to do all the work on it yourself, for the same reason.

    Nice pickup!
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    Yeah i will do what i can to it myself.

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    tune it the old merc motors can go alright

    I have a tuned 2015 (different motor entirely)it’s got 150awkw, goes ok for 2.5 ton

    Great fun launching hard off the lights, can get it to boost to 16psi then off the brake, out launches heaps of cars till 40km/h LOL
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    Yeah they pick up around 50kw and over 100nm with a tune iirc.
    Good for 14s with 33s and a big lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshipengine.jpg View Post
    Yeah they pick up around 50kw and over 100nm with a tune iirc.
    Good for 14s with 33s and a big lift.

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    Nice!

    What’s needed to get 33’s under them?

    A quick google images of “lifted WH Cherokee” showed me they look pretty mean low with big tires. Perhaps setting it up to articulate well, low lift and big tires might work well?


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    I should point out that a "big lift" on these isnt much if your used to 80 series and GU mods due to IFS. Most people stick to 2 1/2 to 3 inches for normal lifts but Superlifts do 4-6 inches and it requires mods to crossmember etc so not many bother with that but 32s go well under a 3 inch lift. Also Google lifted WK Grand Cherokee for more results than WH as they where called WK in the states.
    They get further than most expect due to the factory front and rear lockers.


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    About this height is what id be looking at...







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    ^^^^yeah that’s about the size you want.

    I am a big fan of this set up with the recover points and winch with stock bar






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    Oh yeah, that would do!

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    Mate, 3300 is a fucking steal! Even if you have to spend a bit of coin fixing shit here and there I dont think you are going to go wrong in the long run. Didnt know these hard merc engines/trans, still have a Hi/Lo transfer?

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    Yeah mate low range and factory lockers in the Quadra Drive 2 models.

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    Mate of mine had one of these for a few years, was a rocket with the usual diesel tuning mods. He even set it up to run on cooking oil as an experiment, the full nine yards with fuel heaters etc.

    He might even still have the kit in fact if you're interested. Unreal buying at $3300.
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    Nice buy. My neighbor just bought a similar vintage ML500, he loves it
    I own a two and a half litre Commodore

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    Not sure i could be assed going down the cooking oil path due to lazyness....and they get down to 9 per 100 on the highway so happy with that.

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    Big day yesterday replacing the 3 front Diff locating bushes. Cunt of a job laying on your back thats for sure but eventually got it sorted. The main culprit of the banging is a bush above the input/pinion that takes most of the torque and the center just fell when i lowered it. Cold chisel and hammer took care of the outer.
    Then i replaced the Transmission electrical plug and its 3 O rings that hopefully where the source of the Fluid leak. Its hard to narrow down if its the pan or the electrical fitting where its located.



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    Muricans are sick for wheels outside the guards.

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    Just passed its blue slip thank fuck.
    So finally get it regoed today.
    Ive never bought from an auctions before but so far so good and have saved about 50% off normal price.

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    Have rego will travel. Took it for a decent drive and so far so good. All up purchase price plus a few repairs and 12 mths rego it owes me under 5k so im pretry stoked with that.
    I took the Gumby nudge bar off the front as well because gumby. Standard height and rake makes baby 4wd gods sad though.



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    Still reckon you got a bargain even if something goes wrong in the short term. When do the mods start?

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    Once i sell the current daily.

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    im impressed by the tow rating, whats the most you'll be dragging behind it?

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    Looking at getting a 20-24 ft caravan and seems there about 2 tonne on there own plus whatever gear you load into that for a trip. If the Jeep proves reliable we plan a trip around Oz once i get my long service leave.

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    grab you self nrma roadside just in case but looks like a cracker rig. jeeps are worth nothing so drive it till it drops and enjoy
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    yeah I tow cars and other things



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