Friend Of Friend Got Carjacked

[sirpsi]

dont know exactly where in liverpool this happened but they had guns, knives, and other weapons.
he got the car back but it had been crashed. he doesnt have comp. and know has a $10000 bill.

[samdumbert]

This shit pisses me off bad. its happened to me before i got away but they kicked my door in i would never get out of my car for anyone i dont care what their got.

[phee]

http://www.stickdeath.com/frameset.htm

click on 2002 anti Theft Devices which is 2nd to last.

Takes a bit to load but it's funny

[excelboy]

sorry to hear about your friend sirpsi

this is very worrying...... did it happen during the day or a night?

Origin~~~y posted by Secoh
i'm ~~~ for 0.5kg of C4 under the drivers seat with the detonator hooked to a 2nd mobile kept in my pocket. let them take the car, at least far enuff so I dont get spattered with bits of car thief!

hehe you wouldnt want to get anyone c~~~ing the wrong number would you!

[Clown]

that sucks.... not only getting ya car taken, but a bill in the end..... fark that..

[Sleeping Giant]

Originally posted by samdumbert
i would never get out of my car for anyone i dont care what their got.

As much as i hate to say it i feel the same way.
Unfortunatly chances are you will become a statistic shortly if you act the way you feel.
I had a knife put the through the window of my car a few years ago, and managed to get away without injury to me or my car.
These days i think i'd rather give in and let them have it. As much as i hate the gutless scum who steal, i don't think it's worth dying over a car that's insured anyway.

Anthony

[samdumbert]

Originally posted by RotorMan
i don't think it's worth dying over a car that's insured anyway.

Anthony

mines not insured tho

[SIKMA]

its funny, people act all tough here saying oh id do this , they wouldnt get it off me blah blah blah but until ur in that situation u cant comment, im sure u dont know wat it feels like to have a gun pointed at your head.......
a car can be replaced, ur life cant......

[sssgtr]

Originally posted by phee
http://www.stickdeath.com/frameset.htm

click on 2002 anti Theft Devices which is 2nd to last.

Takes a bit to load but it's funny

"Because your car is worth more than their lives."
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Secoh: Why not just round up the C4 to an even kilo?
I feel sorry for the guy that had his car jacked, but did circumstances not permit him to tear off at an ungodly speed?

I always thought if some c@#t tried to jack me, i'd tear off about 200m up the road, whip on the handbrake, do a 180 and prepare to take the muthaf#$ker out. I'd rather repair about 1k in damage to my car and know that some car jacking f@#k is now a vegetable that sh!ts their pants randomly every 2 minutes.

[samdumbert]

Originally posted by SIKMA
its funny, people act all tough here saying oh id do this , they wouldnt get it off me blah blah blah but until ur in that situation u cant comment, im sure u dont know wat it feels like to have a gun pointed at your head.......
a car can be replaced, ur life cant......

i have been in that situation.

[SuperBoRi]

wire up a large bottle of carbon dioxide to the cab of the car, put a big red button on the dash that says "DO NOT PUSH NO MATTER WHAT, WE PROMISE THAT THE RESULTS OF YOU PRESSING THIS BUTTON WILL BE BAD"

anyone steals the car and sees that button they HAVE to press it and so they sit inside a cab progressively filling with a colourless, odourless gas eventually knocking them into unconsciousness or better

or alternatively you could label it "NOS", i mean why wouldn't they want to have a bit of fun when they steal your car?

Actually - I seriously might do this.

[BALISTC]

Thats a bloody good idea

[Sway]

Originally posted by QIK180
Slight problem being NavTrak aren't up and running last i heard.

NavTrak is now up and running.

Originally posted by Tracka
[b]to the person that is so keen on nav trak. i hate to break your heart but that system is shit...........

I guarentee I can open your car without your GPS system going off. how ???? easy it will cost me an initial outlay of around $1300 and from then on i could jam any gps system.

i will give you a hint. In some american cinemas and restraunts you are unable to use your mobile why ???? thats one hint

second In corporate counter surveillance a device is installed in a conference room so that nobody can leave their mobiles on and somebody can be letting out vital confidential information which could adjust company share prices if let out etc etc[b]

The system is awesome and nowhere near as flawed as QuikTrak even though QuikTrak has been in the country for alot longer than NavTrak.

QuikTrak cannot see your car in a carpark or garage. This is why a car I drive regularly that is has QuikTrak installed has it's parking spaces chosen carefully. QuikTrak have also made numerous stuffups in installations and repairs and unneccesary charges. (IE: The alarm is sounded, and they cannot contact the owner. They send a patrolman out to the owners HOUSE to see if he can see the vehicle. When the vehicle is parked over 15kms away and charge the owner a callout fee.)

The system you talk about for cutting th GPS is actually designed to cut the radio waves for mobile phones. Exactly what QuikTrak is run on!

Just thought I had better get some inaccuracies straightened out.

Jadey

[Southo]

SuperBori,

I am sure they have the internet inside Gaols, so you will still be able to keep in contact with us while serving your Manslaughter or murder charge Same goes for all the people that say they will maime the theif - just remember those bastards have more rights than the honest law abiding citizens it appears

Anyway - as for some of the other comments - yeah - I used to be tough and say - bah, if I was ever held up, I would remain tough and fend them off, be the hero and save the day.....
I must say it's amazing how **cking quickly you change your tune and do what they say when you can feel the cold hard end of a gun barrel against your temple... - and remeber the words that they tell you " No one rembers a dead hero"....

Tracka - it's obvious that you either work for or install QuikTrak systems and in fairness, you should also point out their weeknesses - Both systems are not fool proof and have their limitations - however if you are outside the metro area - a QT is a bloody expensive alarm - at least the Nav-Trak operates outside the metro area. Hey, don't get me wrong, they are both great systems and I have had the opportunity to get detailed data on both systems, and that's the reason my QT is being replaced with a NavTrak in my new car. Not because one is better than the other - but I want a greater coverage area, not just metro.

As for no coverage in under cover car parks - The QT is just as bad as a GPS system in a lot of ways. Many times my car has been "out of sight" and it's been parked at the edge of a double level carpark. If I am parking my car in a dubious position at night - I often call them - ask if they can "see" the car and if not - move it.

I have said it many times before (and it's the reason that I demand a tracker to be fitted on certain cars before I insure them) - it won't STOP your car being stolen or damaged, but it will certainly assist in the quick recovery and minimise the damage and maximise the chance that the thief will get caught.

[IMOA]

Originally posted by Sway
NavTrak is now up and running.

Sorry but it isn't, right now you cannot purchase and install a navtrak, I wouldn't call that up and running.

[DrNick]

AFAIK NavTrak is up and running...

S

[Southo]

Originally posted by IMOA
Sorry but it isn't, right now you cannot purchase and install a navtrak, I wouldn't call that up and running.

I guarantee you Greg - they are selling, installing and are fully up and running, So far they have installed at least 80 units that I am aware of and I just called them myself to double check....

Call them yourself - 1300 88 00 76

Who is giving you this misleading information ??

[QIK180]

Originally posted by Southo
Who is giving you this misleading information ??

As of 3 weeks ago NavTrak themselves. Maybe we are behind the times.

[Tracka]

southo,
i do not work for or install qiktrak systems however i can say that i class myself as in the industry and have a vested interest in tracking technology and APCO-25 Digital radio systems. there are many so called flaws in any radio tracking system. all thanks to somethings called concrete, metal and for gps based systems clouds. i have qiktrak installed in my cars and have been 'saved' on 3 occasions from having my 'uninsurable' 95 rallye WRX and VT Calais Stolen. all traking systems have major problems working in underground carparks and some carports because the structures cannot be penetrated simple. for those deciding what to buy the best way of checking if a system works in your usual parking spot is to get someone with your proposed system installed in their car pay them $50 for their trouble and test it. believe it or not some morons go spend $2600 on a system that does not work in their 6 level underground carpark and wonder why ??? however like it or not car jackings and the like are on the increase because we are installing good immoblisers in our cars witch the average bafoon can not beat. p.s. what frequency do you think qiktrak transmit on ????? digital mobile phones are on 800-900mhz and 1800-1900 mhz. this is not what qiktrak are on.

p.s. get a frequency counter (opteotronics scout) and stand next to a qiktrak vehicle and set it off u will soon see.

pps if any of you guys are interested in how radio tracking systems(qiktrak) work here is a link www.quiktrak.com.au/technology/index.htm

[Mike V]

A guy from the take away shop around the corner from me, got his Rex jacked at gunpoint in Paramatta early this year.


Well that lawyer woman on the news on the week-end got her Boxster jacked and the Quicktrack got it back and got the thief's done for it, so whilst not foolproof, it definitely is a good thing.

Without a doubt your health and/or life is more important than the car. Even though it's a cliche, you can always get another car.

If you lived in South Africa they probably would have shot you first AND taken the car.

I think Secoh has watched Mad Max one too many times...
He's probably got a switch in his cabin to turn the super charger on and off as well...

[HSV Senator]

Originally posted by Tracka
to the person that is so keen on nav trak. i hate to break your heart but that system is shit. don't know if you are aware but the new holden assist also uses this system. ( i.e. NRMA Startrak when we used to have analouge networks).

INSURANCE on a VY SS commodore with Just CARS

yearly premium $3100 p/y
yearly premium with qiktrak $1700 p/y

discount $1400 per year. qiktrak is around $2200 with 1 year monitoring ( vehicle dependent) and $296 per year after that

Interesting. I have my 2002 VX SS insured with Just cars and they told me that quicktrak will not affect your premium but they will remove your theft excess.

[Tracka]

here is a link to the carjacking story hardley a sentence for the 2 lebanese fellows.


http://www.quiktrak.com.au/news/index.htm

to HSV senator i rang them around 3 weeks ago and got the papers sent to me re the quote. we were concidering upgrading my girls car. I am quite sure it was just cars however i will rumage through my papers and confirm it. thinking about it they told me that the theft excess would remain ???

anyway Navtrak is definatly up and running and has been for 4 months. they will start to advertise in January. the only thing that could be their fault is that they use vodafone ???

[kalium]

How hard would it be to rig up a flame thrower system? Not hard at all !

Anyone on these boards with enough competency to make a surge tank and knew the basics of electrics, could make a flame thrower.

Mount 'er under ur car, and wait for em to try and jack you.

[Tracka]

u would end up in the slammer for killing the guy. the theif if he got away with minimal damage would get community service.

THE BEST SOLUTION IS BUY A OLD COROLLA for everyday driving and only use your performance car when there are 3 cops and a helicopter with u

[IMOA]

Originally posted by Southo
I guarantee you Greg - they are selling, installing and are fully up and running, So far they have installed at least 80 units that I am aware of and I just called them myself to double check....

Call them yourself - 1300 88 00 76

Who is giving you this misleading information ??

I organised navtrak to come out and give a presentation to the club, this was a couple of weeks back. At that point they were not ready to sell them (and yes, there were people with the money and ready to go) nor were they able to provide a date when they thought they'd be ready. I have confirmed this is still the case.

[Impakt]

What does everyone here think of NRMA carcom? some friends have it installed and i believe it uses the telstra mobilenet gsm network, and has a remote control, microhphone and speaker installed to call roadside assistance, information, emergency etc.


Impakt

[Tracka]

the new holden assist that is installed in the higher range Holdens use the NRMA carcom system and share he same monitoring centre. it practically is the same as the navtrak without a card.

i.e. uses GPS to get a location location fix then sends the data back via the telstra network. so if you have a telstra mobile and your phone does not work where you just parked your car the alarm will possibly not work and only be a standard alarm ( as no signal can get out) however if the car is started and moved into a coverage area it will notify the centre and start a track.

ring carcom up and get some info sent out so you then can make an educated guess/decision

IMOA if you rang the 1300 number and spoke to a guy by the name of

Dean Penhorwood who is the General Manager of NavTrak
he will asssure you they are available for installs.

Ph 1300 880 076

it is possible that they are to busy to come out and make a presentation ??? they are quite busy at the moment.

anybody that wants info on nav trak or qiktrack send your e-mail address to me and i can forward you any info u require price list, specs etc ( my address is trackasec@yahoo.com.au